• Letstakealook@lemm.ee
    1072·
    2 天前

    The simplest answer is probably that the CCP has its own doctrine and ideals, so westerners larping as communists online may be espousing ideals that don’t align with the party’s official doctrine. Why let western trolls muddy the waters when you already have efficient distribution of the exact political discourses you desire?

    • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space
      1084·
      2 天前

      They had a problem a few years ago with student Marxist societies using their own readings of Marx to critique the Party’s leadership, which they of course came down on like a tonne of bricks. The CCP is about Marxism the way the Catholic Church is about the Bible: there’s only one valid interpretation, and it’s whatever the institution says it is at the time.

        • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
          62·
          1 天前

          China literally created an AI version of Marx and claimed they “Used AI to revive Karl Marx”

          And then had that AI said that Karl Marx was “Secretly Chinese teh whole time!!!111”

      • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
        131·
        2 天前

        Are they not maoists? I don’t really pay too much attention to what exactly they have going on as fascism in my own country is more important to my daily life.

        • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
          17·
          2 天前

          No, they’re Dengists and Xi puts you in prison for giving Deng the credit for China’s current position.

          Mao would hang the entire CCP if he was alive for being capitalist swine.

          • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
            6·
            1 天前

            Interesting. My understanding of Chinese communism is apparently even more shallow than I already estimated. I just might read up more on it if I have the time.

        • psud@aussie.zoneEnglish
          6·
          1 天前

          Are you commenting on their characterisation of the CCP or the Catholic church?

          • Vivendi@lemmy.zip
            56·
            1 天前

            The CPC. These “new reading of Marx”, are usually Maoist/Trotskyist fucks, also the entire claim doesn’t have a single source other than “US propaganda/Falun Gong/Radio Free Asia told me in my dreams”

            • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
              3·
              19 小时前

              Maoist/Trotskyist fucks

              And therefore they deserve repression? When you justify the action and then deny it in the same breath it makes the denial seem suspect. I admit I don’t know what - if anything - transpired between the CCP and the aforementioned student groups, but you’re not doing the CCP any favors by responding to allegations in this childish manner.

    • Psychodelic@lemmy.world
      42·
      2 天前

      I’m still trying to understand what tankies are. Are they simply people pretending to be communists?

      • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
        19·
        2 天前

        It originally referred to modern day communists who believed Stalin was right to send troops and tanks into Czechoslovakia in 1968 to crush the liberal government there that had recently arisen there. Hence the word “tankie” for someone who believes that it’s right to use tanks to destroy peaceful democratic governments in order to (re)install communism.

        • Carl@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          14 小时前

          Stalin

          1968

          lmao you don’t know anything, do you?

          • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
            1·
            13 小时前

            I think he may be getting a couple things mixed up, namely that the term tankie was borne due to multiple uprisings one of which was the 1956 Hungarian Revolution which was in many ways caused by the death of Stalin.

            • Carl@lemm.eeEnglish
              2·
              13 小时前

              It also wasn’t a peaceful democratic movement. My point is merely that a lot of people who don’t know anything write extremely confidently on this and every other topic related to communist history.

      • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
        91·
        1 天前

        If anyone tries to tell you Tianemen Square Massacre didn’t happen… They’re a Tankie.

        If anyone tries to tell you that “The LGBT Agenda is a Western Attack on Third World Nations”… They’re a Tankie.

        If they voted for Trump because “But Kamala’s bad for Palestine.”… Tankie

        And if they voted for Trump because he’s a terrible person who will destroy everything, they’re not just a tankie, they’re an Accelerationist.

      • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
        151·
        2 天前

        Tankies is a pejorative for authoritarian communists. As to the sincerity and actual involvement in any actual activity, that is highly individual.

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldOP
      2·
      18 小时前

      Unfortunately, but I doubt Lemmy is that big where the CCP has detailed working knowledge of how Lemmy works.

      But, it would break quite a few things that function by referencing the home instance URL, like crossposts or images

  • __nobodynowhere@lemm.eeEnglish
    533·
    2 天前

    China pushes different propaganda within China than it does without China. Don’t cross the streams.

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
      182·
      1 天前

      Makes sense, don’t want Chinese people talking to Tankies… Otherwise Tankies might get a fucking clue.

      I don’t know why they are dumb enough to think China is this amazing Paradise, but it obviously aint.

        • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          15 小时前

          Not surprising, I used to be a Socialist Group and we had one guy who claimed to be Chinese and talked about how wonderful everything was (He wasn’t Chinese, he was black and born in America… I knew this because it was on facebook and it’s not that hard to click someone’s fucking profile and check), and when I called bullshit the group turned on me and started mocking me

          “B…but ReDdit TolD me Chi9nawas Baaaad!11”

          I do not miss that group

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      196·
      2 天前

      What’s incredible is that the good dumb dumbs on the tankist triad don’t fucking know that about their dearly beloved CCP

  • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
    211·
    2 天前

    Probably one of the few instances where I can’t say I blame them one bit.

    • figjam@midwest.socialEnglish
      3·
      1 天前

      The Great Firewall of China. Basically all publicly available internet access in China must route through hardware owned by the Government. The government restricts what can and can’t resolve.

        • figjam@midwest.socialEnglish
          1·
          15 小时前

          I don’t know if i understand your question. I believe you are asking whether the blocks are contextual based on content or if there is a group of people checking sites to see whether or not they should be blocked. We don’t know for sure because they don’t talk about it officially but it is probably both.

    • taiyang@lemmy.world
      17·
      2 天前

      My guess is it’s specific to the domain but federation screws up a domain firewall (which I kind of hope is the case, that’d be a cool reason to use the Fediverse).

      That, or it’s fake, except there is a fair number of people able to check that site and confirm and the site is usually correct in my experience.

      • ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.comEnglish
        191·
        2 天前

        I am in China. I can connect to my world, ml, lemmygrad, dbzer0, and slrflr accounts fine. IDK about this website people are connecting to check.

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
      91·
      24 小时前

      Ah yes, that one user that bashes that instance… Lol. This instance (.ml) is trash, and always has been. It’s full of irrational extremists.

      • yuri@pawb.social
        1·
        19 小时前

        i wish it wasn’t true bc i usually get along so well with em, but yeah just recently i’ve been seeing some whack opinions from .ml communities 😬

  • poVoq@slrpnk.net
    164·
    2 天前

    Yeah, this was a nice fnord when it was first discovered.

    But given that the other two are not blocked it is probably for some mundane reason like that early on lemmy.ml was targeted with a lot of nazi spam.

      • poVoq@slrpnk.net
        13·
        2 天前

        Ah, a while ago when I checked hexbear wasn’t blocked yet. Well the Chinese probably don’t like seeing shit on pig-balls everywhere 🫠