The simplest answer is probably that the CCP has its own doctrine and ideals, so westerners larping as communists online may be espousing ideals that don’t align with the party’s official doctrine. Why let western trolls muddy the waters when you already have efficient distribution of the exact political discourses you desire?
They had a problem a few years ago with student Marxist societies using their own readings of Marx to critique the Party’s leadership, which they of course came down on like a tonne of bricks. The CCP is about Marxism the way the Catholic Church is about the Bible: there’s only one valid interpretation, and it’s whatever the institution says it is at the time.
Are they not maoists? I don’t really pay too much attention to what exactly they have going on as fascism in my own country is more important to my daily life.
Interesting. My understanding of Chinese communism is apparently even more shallow than I already estimated. I just might read up more on it if I have the time.
The CPC. These “new reading of Marx”, are usually Maoist/Trotskyist fucks, also the entire claim doesn’t have a single source other than “US propaganda/Falun Gong/Radio Free Asia told me in my dreams”
And therefore they deserve repression? When you justify the action and then deny it in the same breath it makes the denial seem suspect. I admit I don’t know what - if anything - transpired between the CCP and the aforementioned student groups, but you’re not doing the CCP any favors by responding to allegations in this childish manner.
It originally referred to modern day communists who believed Stalin was right to send troops and tanks into Czechoslovakia in 1968 to crush the liberal government there that had recently arisen there. Hence the word “tankie” for someone who believes that it’s right to use tanks to destroy peaceful democratic governments in order to (re)install communism.
I think he may be getting a couple things mixed up, namely that the term tankie was borne due to multiple uprisings one of which was the 1956 Hungarian Revolution which was in many ways caused by the death of Stalin.
It also wasn’t a peaceful democratic movement. My point is merely that a lot of people who don’t know anything write extremely confidently on this and every other topic related to communist history.
The simplest answer is probably that the CCP has its own doctrine and ideals, so westerners larping as communists online may be espousing ideals that don’t align with the party’s official doctrine. Why let western trolls muddy the waters when you already have efficient distribution of the exact political discourses you desire?
They had a problem a few years ago with student Marxist societies using their own readings of Marx to critique the Party’s leadership, which they of course came down on like a tonne of bricks. The CCP is about Marxism the way the Catholic Church is about the Bible: there’s only one valid interpretation, and it’s whatever the institution says it is at the time.
My chinese colleague said the state translations of Marx’s writings read like poetry haha
Given how dry Capital is id wager a bet that the writing it like poetry may be an anti-passing out measure.
China literally created an AI version of Marx and claimed they “Used AI to revive Karl Marx”
And then had that AI said that Karl Marx was “Secretly Chinese teh whole time!!!111”
Are they not maoists? I don’t really pay too much attention to what exactly they have going on as fascism in my own country is more important to my daily life.
No, they’re Dengists and Xi puts you in prison for giving Deng the credit for China’s current position.
Mao would hang the entire CCP if he was alive for being capitalist swine.
Interesting. My understanding of Chinese communism is apparently even more shallow than I already estimated. I just might read up more on it if I have the time.
Are you commenting on their characterisation of the CCP or the Catholic church?
The CPC. These “new reading of Marx”, are usually Maoist/Trotskyist fucks, also the entire claim doesn’t have a single source other than “US propaganda/Falun Gong/Radio Free Asia told me in my dreams”
And therefore they deserve repression? When you justify the action and then deny it in the same breath it makes the denial seem suspect. I admit I don’t know what - if anything - transpired between the CCP and the aforementioned student groups, but you’re not doing the CCP any favors by responding to allegations in this childish manner.
Makes sense, still pretty damn funny though lol
I’m still trying to understand what tankies are. Are they simply people pretending to be communists?
It originally referred to modern day communists who believed Stalin was right to send troops and tanks into Czechoslovakia in 1968 to crush the liberal government there that had recently arisen there. Hence the word “tankie” for someone who believes that it’s right to use tanks to destroy peaceful democratic governments in order to (re)install communism.
lmao you don’t know anything, do you?
I think he may be getting a couple things mixed up, namely that the term tankie was borne due to multiple uprisings one of which was the 1956 Hungarian Revolution which was in many ways caused by the death of Stalin.
It also wasn’t a peaceful democratic movement. My point is merely that a lot of people who don’t know anything write extremely confidently on this and every other topic related to communist history.
If anyone tries to tell you Tianemen Square Massacre didn’t happen… They’re a Tankie.
If anyone tries to tell you that “The LGBT Agenda is a Western Attack on Third World Nations”… They’re a Tankie.
If they voted for Trump because “But Kamala’s bad for Palestine.”… Tankie
And if they voted for Trump because he’s a terrible person who will destroy everything, they’re not just a tankie, they’re an Accelerationist.
Tankies is a pejorative for authoritarian communists. As to the sincerity and actual involvement in any actual activity, that is highly individual.