• DogPeePoo@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    72
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    Christians are very easily duped and therein lies the problem.

    Trump has never attended ANY church organically of his own volition.

    He was a registered Democrat— easily Googled. He raw dogged a porn star while cheating on his pregnant wife. They don’t give a fig unless Fox News tells them ‘they are upset now’, and feeds them their latest talking point.

    • YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      31
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      I think you are misunderstanding Christian nationalists. They don’t believe in anything remotely like what Christ taught. They believe in white supremacy, misogyny, and greed. Trump ticks all the right boxes for them.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Right but they don’t admit that, they want the appearance of giving a shit about Jesus

      • prole@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        They don’t believe in anything remotely like what Christ taught.

        They should rename the fallacy to, “no true Christian” at this point.

        Interesting how it’s never actually the real Christians that behave this way, because if they do, then they’re not “real” Christians. Convenient, huh?

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Christ didn’t teach anything. He is a fable made up by James and Paul. Modern Christians don’t believe certain cherry picked stuff the stories had him say.

        If you look at what the fable said you get a vile character who is aligned well with fascism.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      Christians are very easily duped and therein lies the problem.

      Yeah, it’s literally baked into the scripture. The authority figures that made it up made sure to include blind obedience as a central virtue, so they could better control the masses. That’s why they came up with the whole thing.

      If you convince a Christian (or Muslim or Hindu or whatever) fundamentalist that you’re a righteous defender of the ideals of their religion, they’ll let you get away with literally anything, including but not limited to “grabbing them by the pussy”.

      • DogPeePoo@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        9 months ago

        Exactly. The fact that their pea brains disallow critical thought is the mechanism politicians have seized on.

    • prole@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      9 months ago

      Christians are very easily duped and therein lies the problem.

      Yup. They’ve basically been primed for decades to believe absurd bullshit with zero evidence. It’s an entire class of proud rubes.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      I remember Trump saying something low effort like “I love religion, I love the Bible” and it WORKED!

  • Alteon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    37
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    9 months ago

    You know…I always though how culture war victories in 4X games were a little unreasonable…and then you see this shit.

    It’s so frustrating that people are so ridiculously gullible as long as you make them feel good about themselves first. Tell them how intelligent they are for not believing the evil liberal agenda. You want to know what the liberal agenda actually is conservatives? We just want to live our lives however we want, and not have to be harassed, to not have to feel unsafe, to cultivate a world that is healthy, a population that is well-educated and happy, and not have to worry about tomorrow. To leave behind a world that is better than the one we were brought up in. Yeah. We’re evil AF.

    Apparently that is so counterproductive to capitalism that they’ve managed to persuade meatheads that it’s evil liberal propaganda. The irony of the poorest class in America literally siding with the richest class in America - they wouldn’t know it, but hey…how often are people going to take the time to chase down the money?

  • lennybird@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    There’s a great PBS Frontline documentary about these Christian nationalists/fascists, focusing primarily on Michael Flynn who has gained quite the following leading these morons.

    • catloaf@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      They’re fascists for sure, but Nazis had a mixed view on Christianity. Most of the leaders didn’t want Christianity, or if they did, a flavor that was neither Catholic nor Protestant, but Naziism first and Christian second. (And of course Islam and Judaism were right out.)

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        And of course Islam and Judaism were right out.

        “First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.”

  • Binthinkin@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    9 months ago

    I was telling people to watch The Family on Netflix years ago. Glad to see nothing has been done and it was a spot on documentary.

  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    9 months ago

    If you aren’t a cis white het male willing to lie about being prot this is the time to get dual citizenship somewhere else. And this is exactly why I am making sure my daughters get it.

    You do not want to be in a line behind 30 million refugees trying to get into Canada. You want to be able to go to an embassy and secure right of return.

    • Etterra@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      Probably not. It’s a cult of personality. The good news though is that most cults don’t survive the death of their leader. Usually it requires a solid second in command to step up and reform things to save it.

      The most likely result here will be the crazy brigade will stay around until T***p dies. After that it’ll splinter and dissolve into infighting while some few people go back to something vaguely like reality.

      • Usually it requires a solid second in command to step up and reform things to save it.

        And like most petty dictators, Trump has been diligent in preventing anyone from becoming a solid second-in-command, because he fears all potential threats to his dominance. If he dies, because he’s an out-and-out monarchist, the only possible heirs will literally be his heirs, and fighting between his children to assume his legacy will be bitter and bloody.

  • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 months ago

    Part of me wants to write a WWZ style anthology about people telling their stories post Redcap takeover and eventually being kicked out.

    So far I’ve got 3 world building points,

    1. only landowning Christian men can vote, non-white Christian men are heavily discouraged by basically the Klan revived as a copy of Iran’s morality police. Voting districts are exclusively alloted based on square acreage instead of population size. The legislative body is called the Holy Synod of Saint Washington.

    2. “holy crimes” get you branded with a literal scarlet letter, one of the worst examples is that rape victims are often branded J for “Jezebel” because their attacker was able to work some connections to get out of being prosecuted, so attempting to file charges instead gets treated as admitting to sex before marriage, something that only the woman gets punished for. Rest assured there are other also terrible letters, like S for sodomite or H for heretic.

    3. You or your family can pay an exorbitant sum of money to have you “redeemed”, which instead sees you forced to wear a death mask in public as a “mortificant”, yes even if you have trouble breathing in it, no this doesn’t change that people will still treat you like shit, yes you’ll be treated as the one at fault if someone forcibly removes the death mask while you’re in public.

    • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      There is short novel called “If This Goes On…” describing a rebellion against an American theocracy and serves as a vehicle to criticise the authoritarian potential of Protestant Christian fundamentalism.

      It was written by Robert Heinlein in 1940 and the theocratic takeover was written to occur in 2012.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_in_2100

    • CeeBee@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      You or your family can pay an exorbitant sum of money to have you “redeemed”

      Why exorbitant? The Catholic Church did indulgences centuries ago.

      • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        9 months ago

        The point is that they’re doing shit that is considered heretical by most denominations and yet insisting the whole time they are true blue god fearing Christian folk.

        • CeeBee@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 months ago

          No no, I know what you’re saying. But to me your post kinda read like your story was introducing something new (maybe I didn’t read it properly). I was just pointing out that the concept of “pay to sin” was literally employed by the Catholic Church before.

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 months ago

      Don’t forget the genocide against the Catholics and Mormons when the Evangelicals no longer need them.

      Under prot rule atheists will be fine. We will just lie and be safe. The groups most at risk are the ones that are close to to prot but not quite there.