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    This is obviously such a ridiculous, cluelessly macho thing. For one, this isn’t the type of durability that matters to 99% of customers. It’s a bit more important that you know, the car doesn’t lock you out suddenly, lose body panels, have a catastrophic suspension failure, you know. Then, if it did somehow matter if your car is bulletproof, attackers aren’t going to be aiming at the body of the car, they would be shooting through the windows and windshield.

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    Fun fact: The windows are not bulletproof. Also the most common rifle in the US is the AR-15… and the cybertruck’s doors are decidedly NOT resistant againt .223/5.56x45mm rounds. And if they’re using green tips or even regular FMJ rounds, you can forget about any semblance of protection.

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      I was shooting thicker steel than that yesterday with cheapo .223, went through it like butter. The bullets are hilariously small, but they’re hauling ass at 3,400FPS.

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        People don’t realize just how penetrative .223 is. And the stuff you are firing is civilian grade stuff. Imagine some VIP was driving a cyber truck thinking he is safe and some guys with actual military ammunition fired at him. His car might as well be made of paper mache.

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        Yeah military 5.56 will go through cinderblocks. Maybe not in a perfect straight line but modern military rounds would chew up any car, even the lame cybertruck.

        Basically unless you’re behind the engine block or axel (the dense metal parts of the car) assault rifle rounds are gonna get through. Don’t hide behind cars.

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    Testing? Testing with what? The cheapest crappiest frangible 9mm they could find?

    The real ballsy move is riding two wheels, where I’m going I don’t need imaginary armor panels around me.

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    Are the bullet holes shopped on instead of shot on?

    It looks like the same hole with the same shadows pasted all over the car.

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      The spread is also weird. Not random, not cluster. Like someone tried to evenly space them, but only on the door panels.

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        There have been a lot of videos of proud Cybertruck owners shooting up their own car doors to own the libs. And I wish any part of that was a joke. Just search youtube.

        This is likely the result of one of those “tests” using the lowest-grain hollow-point 9mm rounds they could find so they can drive around feeling invincible until they have to spend a large portion of the vehicle’s cost on new doors. And in this case, new body panels as well because aiming is for cucks I guess. But it’s okay because the primary consumer of Cybertrucks are crypto-bros who found themselves on the top of the pyramid/edge of the bubble and have more entitlement and money than sense and will just buy another.

        I hate it here.

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          Considering the Cybertruck is just a standard stainless steel alloy, I’d ask why they aren’t just buying sheet from a metal yard to test, but I already know the answer.

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            They can’t tell the difference between us laughing at them and us becoming enraged by them, they’re just like mistreated dogs who have learned they can get attention by pissing on the floor and any kind of attention will do.

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              I genuinely think algo based social media ruined a people who use it as their primary way they interact with other people. Any attention, good or bad, means ENGAGEMENT. We’ve commodified the behavior that kids who can’t disguise between good and bad behavior.

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                A lot of the most pernicious and insidious effects of the social media algorithm have a lot to do with unchecked capitalism just turning everyone’s attention span into currency that can be infinitely divided and pulled apart.

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          Maybe a hot take, but I thought it looked cool in the concept images (though those are obviously unburdened by the constraints of reality). Unfortunately, so much of that sleekness it was originally going for was killed by the time the physical product went into production, and the low build quality is very apparent from pretty much any photos of one you can find.

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            I guess to each their own. To me, it always looked like a fiberglass shell put on an El Camino in a 1980s straight-to-VHS Mad Max ripoff movie.

            Ironically, that would make it a better and more reliable vehicle.

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      And you know what, I’m a fan of the rugged look with the brushed steel and all that. I just can’t get past the lines, they are so terrible. It really looks like a kid drew it but in a bad way. If they’d made it square it would be nice imho

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        It’s like he was trying to draw a Delorian from memory and forgot it wasn’t a truck.

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          Honestly if I had to have a notoriously unreliable car, I’d pick a Delorian over this any day.

          At least the Delorian can be dressed up like in BTTF.

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      They are ugly, but I’d love to have them on some zombie apocalypse survival games ^^

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    I don’t get the whole car being someone’s identity thing. Whether it’s their whole identity or just a part of it, doesn’t matter.

    A vehicle is a tool to get things done. Transporting people and things from location to location. But so many people are making it into a statement. I have no idea why.

    I never wanted my car to make any statements, nor stand out in any way whatsoever. The reason of simple: no matter who you are, what you value, what you believe, there’s always going to be people that disagree with you. A nontrivial number of those that disagree with your viewpoint, have the aptitude and willingness to mess with your property, especially when you’re not looking.

    So you’re going to leave your opinion, on one of the most expensive things you own, while it is parked in public spaces with (more often than not) zero security against people’s access to your shit.

    I just… I don’t get it.

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      People make themselves all about one thing all the time. Car is just one possibility. Surely you’ve met those incredibly dedicated sports fans that build their entire lives around whatever team they follow. Some people are very proud they use Arch Linux. Others build their identity around Elon Musk or Donald Trump. It’s just a form of tribalism.

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      But so many people are making it into a statement. I have no idea why.

      If you keep chasing this question, you eventually get to a very dark place and realize just how little free-will our species has. I am dead serious, unless you want to wreck your entire perception of yourself and our species and deal with a very severe depressive episode, cease your investigations.

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    “A Typical Day Buying a Car in America”

    So, there I was, minding my own business, when I decide it’s about time I get myself a new set of wheels. You know, something reliable, maybe a little bulletproof? Can’t be too careful out there, right?

    Walked into this dealership, looking sharp as ever in my sunglasses and a trench coat, ready to flip the script. The salesman, guy named Greg, looked up from his desk like I’d just walked into the sun. “Can I help you?” he says, polite but cautious. “Sure, buddy,” I said, sliding my .45 onto the counter. “I’m in the market for a car that can take a hit.”

    Greg’s eyes widened. “Uh… we’ve got models that can handle themselves. How about the Honda Civic? It’s pretty tough for its size—bulletproof up to 9mm!” “9mm?” I repeated, unimpressed. “Buddy, my gun’s got a hair more punch.”

    We went through the lineup: the Ford F-150 with its armor-like doors (though it admitted it’d leave a dent or two), the Subaru Outback with its reinforced undercarriage (can’t trust cars that hide), and then… there was the Tesla Cybertruck. “Think you’re funny,” I said, sliding behind the wheel. “Let’s see what this thing’s got.”

    Pulled out my SIG Sauer, popped off a few rounds. The Civic? Dented like a can of beans. The F-150? A bulletproof glass shattered, but it held up… kinda. And then the Cybertruck. “Bullets,” I said, aiming dead center. “Go ahead. Hit it.”

    Greg let out a breath he probably hadn’t taken since 2012. The bullets hit, and… nothing. Not a scratch, not a dent. Just like that, the Cybertruck became my new ride. “Sure, why not,” I said, shrugging. “It’s got range, style, and now, apparently, it’s bulletproof.”

    Drove off, leaving Greg staring after me like I’d just pulled a heist or something.

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      The civic probably costs less than window and door replacements for the cybertruck

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        It’s a common pattern to see a $8,000 Civic driving around with $14,000 of after-market upgrades. Maybe bulletproof shielding is the new trend!

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    FWIW, IIRC it’s only bulletproof to subsonic 9mm. If you’re using normal range ammo (115gr), it’s not going to stop the bullet. It’s definitely not going to stop any rifle more powerful than a .22lr.

    And super-rigid body panels are actually a bad thing; it likely doesn’t have crumple zones, which means that more energy is going into the passengers in a crash.

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      I was punching holes in much thicker steel yesterday with .223 and .45ACP. LOL, if even a fat, slow .45 will get it done, about anything will.

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        Fat, slow .45 ACP punches though because it’s heavy. They start at about 230gr v. the 115gr for 9mm.

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    Obligatory… The Cyber truck is not rated as bullet proof. This footage was most likely produced with cartridges that have just enough gun powder to cycle the gun’s action. Actual bulletproof vehicles are way more expensive.

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      This footage was most likely produced with cartridges that have just enough gun powder to cycle the gun’s action.

      Frankly, it’s probably not even that much. They probably used a bolt action and really light powder loads. I’d say maybe it’s a .22 but the dents look big for that.

      Edit: Someone else posted this a JerryRigEverything video- it apparently stops .22 and 9mm. I’m pretty surprised.

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        Looking it up, the doors are 1.8mm steel. At a 90 degree angle that’s enough to stop underpowered 9mm rounds reliably. It will stop most normal rounds fired at it, and especially start letting a lot through in areas with repeated stress. The second you hot load a round, use a heavy projectile or any kind of round with more potential than standard FMJ it’s all going through.

        And that has to be the right kind of steel too. Which is more expensive. So yeah I’m pretty sure they used underpowered rounds at the very least to create this visual.

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          Checked brandon herrera. Seems like its bullet resistant and can handle non hot or ap loads from 9mm and below pistols and that’s it. Still hard to believe since there’s all info is from big tech platforms and big youtubers who are all famous for their jorunalistic integrity.

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            1/4 inch is for armor that you want to be able trust and keep using. 3/16 inch or 4 mm will be the bare minimum for one time use. The Cyber truck is 1.8 mm.

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              Seems like it is some stronger alloy that is resistant to pistol fire. Brendon herrera seemed to do a semi independent test.

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      The cybertruck is an completely obese but not heavy enough to be bulletproof.

      Bullets go through trees like they aren’t there. What makes you think the stainless steel body panels thata are as thick as

      checks notes

      the steel used in literally every car is somehow bullet proof?

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      Can conform cyber truck is not bulletproof. It didnt stop anything that we shot at. It.

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    If it’s on fire and the autolocks, you know the doors are strong enough to not budge when you try to kick them open.

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      The autolock on the fire, to me, is proof that Elon fully intends this to be a working feature. He probably would want all of his cars like this so if anyone in one of his cars displeases him he can have the battery overheat into a blaze AND prevent the occupants from escaping.

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      Even if not, I doubt competitors are “shitting their pants” over this. Can’t say the bulletproofness rating topped the list of features I was looking for in my next car purchase

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          More important will be the ability to repair it yourself when things inevitably break. Given that musk is insanely petty and political, you would need to count on whittling Tesla parts from a piece of wood.

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            Or the fact that Cyber trucks rarely make it more than a few hundred miles (if that) before they shut themselves off. Also, if you are ever in an accident and it loses power, it may very well lock you in the vehicle while it burns you to death.

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              (Pre morning coffee brainwave)

              If someone wants DIY fix their Cybertruck, they should consider adding an isolated, self powered emergency door release mechanism. With explosive bolts. Now that would make it cyberpunk as fuck. Wait, that makes it more vulnerable to weapon fire. Shit now I really need my coffee

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            He can just shut it down if you’ve gone to [insert any liberal location Musk decides on]. Those things are tracking you and have remote everything that Tesla can control.

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        Places that have metal protecting you (legs), places not bullet proof, head and chest.
        Doesn’t sound that useful. Also the bridge I currently take to go to work as the main bridge is closed for updating for the next few months only supports 3 tons. So a cyber truck couldn’t get to my residence without taking a 7 mile detour each way.

        (Not that I was ever considering one nor could afford one)

        Edit to also add fun fact for those that maybe didn’t understand the size of a .22lr or a .223 listed above. .223 is also known as 5.56 NATO. though they sound similar in size, a .223 round has 10x the energy of a .22 (they are much larger and travel much faster)

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      I went down a rabbithole recently because I was convinced of the same. Apparently this is the only claim that’s actually true. You can take your pick of videos on youtube. You can find things that will pen it, but not your random 9mm or other handgun.

      Having said that, it makes complete sense to me that the “I must be ready to dispense death at any moment” crowd also thinks they need a vehicle that is prepared to repel other people dispensing death at any moment.

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    “Technically” bulletproof (in that some parts can’t have holes poked through them by bullets), can’t drive through sand or mud.

    Very apocalypse-proof.

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      Not only that but from what I’ve heard all Teslas have issues with rain and going through car washes. This is not a car company this is a tech company that tried to make cars. The only reason they have succeeded thus far is because none of the actual car makers were outputting electric vehicles seriously. Now that they are Tesla is doomed cause they’re absolute shit at designing automobiles.

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        Tarpenning and Eberhard actually knew what they were doing (or at least who to listen to) and the Tesla might have been a decent car under their leadership. Neither of them were auto engineers, but they were both way into cars. But we’re not in that timeline. Musk clearly knows nothing about cars.

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        Ha! Elsewhere in this thread I described the Cybertruck as it’s always looked to me- a fiberglass shell over an El Camino in a bad 1980s straight-to-VHS Mad Max ripoff movie.