• huquad@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Yeah the planet got destroyed, but for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders

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    No they didn’t. Sure, the people who made that decision are human, but “humans” implies it was a collective decision. You and I had no say in it. There are like 100 people in the world who make all the decisions. They’re the ones benefiting from the destruction of the earth, and they’re the ones responsible. We weren’t given a vote.

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      You can’t absolve “us” of all the responsibility. We wouldn’t be in this situation if the masses weren’t so easy to manipulate into supporting corruption. The vast majority of us would take the quick-and-easy-yet-destructive path over the long-and-hard-productive one most of the time. Remove those 100-or-whatever by violent revolution tomorrow, and someone else will rise to the top of the stink heap the next day. Real change requires sacrifice at all levels of society.

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    More like, they boofed coke out of strippers assholes on private jets and decided to keep doing that. I’m sure they think trees are fine.

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      Yeah. I genuinely think it’s definitely not most people. And most people aren’t greedy.

      But living in a society where the power is with the small insane minority who is greedy and blind to consequences will make a society in which even non-greedy people end up making “financially smart” decuisions (read:selfish gain at the possible cost to others, like cheap items despite knowing they come from countries with very badly exploited workers).

      But yeah, I’m honestly of the opinion that we genuinely have only one massive problem on this planet, and it’s the psyche of these money/powerhungry fucks. And while it might be somewhat common — ambition is not be frowned upon, as long as you’re even vaguely moral — the truly pathological version comes when an ambitious psyche is twisted by our already somewhat twisted society.

      Here’s a nice piece from a self-confessed money addict, former wall street trader. https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/19/opinion/sunday/for-the-love-of-money.html he’s also written an entire book about it.

      So what could be done about this? Well, it’s genuinely an addiction and lack of empathy. Do we have any medication with anti-addictive and perhaps empathy-generating qualities?

      We do, actually. They’ve been under lock and key for almost 100 years, because they’re potentially the antidote to the ills of our world, and the psyches of the powerful fear such things.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathogen

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/antiaddictive

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    After watching Pocahontas for the first time in many years, it shocked me that anyone could value personal wealth over coexisting. The antagonist only cares about mining out gold, looking at the hills as having potential as opposed to perceiving them as implicitly valuable as they are. Nature is worth protecting.

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      it shocked me that anyone could value personal wealth over coexisting

      Laughs in freedom units

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    2 months ago

    Really? I think a pretty healthy portion of the land above the 30th parallel until the Arctic circle looks something like this

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    Stop using wood furniture. Don’t live in wooden houses and make sure to demand a plastic straw next time you have a burger and there will be less profits.

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      Hi there, I’m just wondering does Shell pay well? I was thinking of moving over to them after the Soros and Koch checks dry up post election.

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        No, not really. But you can feel good about saving trees. You also get an xmas allowance of assorted seabirds dipped in crude oil that makes for a very cozy fire place.

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          They aren’t still alive though right? I’m sure I could sell them on eBay or something. Oh well, at least Coca Cola is always paying.

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    I don’t usually like snarky dismissive comments, but.

    c/im14andthisisdeep

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    To be fair, we deluded ourselves into thinking we were the special ones that all this was created for, and deities wouldn’t let it be ruined unless we displeased them. There’s still a lot of people who believe that. And as late as the 1990s it was easy for a normal person to think the scientists were just being dramatic.

    Of course now with a top ten heat year, every year, for the last several years, and breaking the record for half of them, it’s easy to look back and be harsh.

    Leadership should have been more responsible. But they’re just normal people too. The decision was truly made by the oil corporations whose own studies told them this was happening. And they spent billions over the decades to fund denialism.

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    i’m convinced that this is a reason we were a massive force in the first and second world war. Without the sacrifice of our vast natural resources, i’m not convinced the world, let alone america would be where it is today.

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    2 months ago

    Some goblin that looks like mark Davis standing above it all:

    “Look at all these unrealized profit opportunities!”