In an episode of Two Nice Jewish Boys, which aired three weeks ago, host Weinstein said: “If you gave me a button to just erase Gaza, every single living being in Gaza would no longer be living tomorrow. I would press it in a second.”

He claimed that “most Israelis” would do the same.

Meningher added that they would also want to wipe out Palestinians in “the territories”.

The clip of Weinstein and Meningher lauding the idea of all five million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and West Bank being wiped out has drawn fierce criticism online.

“Radio Rwanda in full effect here. This is deeply disturbing,” journalist Samira Mohyedeen wrote on X, referring to the broadcasts that incited genocide against the Tutsis during the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

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    Maybe all Israelis need to visit Dachau or Auschwitz to remember how being actively erased isn’t a good thing. How quickly it’s forgotten.

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      Or the Warsaw ghetto… you know… a segregated part of a country bring reduced to ruin with technological superior weaponry, due to a people resisting the oppressive regime of a racist state.

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    Israel can fuck right off. Clearly, “never again” doesn’t mean fuck all to the Israeli government who are doing the same shit the Nazis did, only with bombs instead of gas chambers.

    Fuck Israel. The US should have stopped giving them money decades ago.

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          Seems like what you’re doing fr. So lemme get it right, terrorists murder Israeli’s for generations, no problem that’s fine. Israeli’s fight back and they’re genocidal maniacs? Get bent bud, you worried about the people in Gaza then blame the government that allowed terrorists to overthrow and take control of Gaza not the Israeli’s who are sick of being slaughtered.

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    A few months ago I started using Google Translate to read what Israelis are saying amongst each other in their mainstream publications and forums.

    My. God. Levels of entitlement and racism that would make a Klansman blush.

    Sure, a lot of them want a cease-fire to get the hostages back … and most don’t like Netanyahu … but the average Israeli Zionist is a racist monster.

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      You have to remember that the people who post comments on news articles are not average. Look at any English news site article and its full of the most bottom of the barrel idiots. The majority of people don’t comment on things like this.

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        I’m not referring to powerless, mouth-breathing, NEETs who normally lurk forums.

        But I’m referring to comments from actual members of the Israeli Knesset, public statements from people like the OP, printed editorials in mainstream publications, and modern Israeli celebrities.

        When you read through the translations not meant for western audiences - the racism pops out disturbingly. It’s such a part of their culture that they don’t even notice it as such. Zionists really don’t view people in the West Bank or Gaza as humans.

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        It’s a good thing to keep in mind but it’s a different culture, right now they can’t decide if torture and rape of prisoners is okay.

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      You have to remember that their religion teaches them that non-jewish humans are, well, ‘not that important’

      To put it mildly

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        The vast majority of Jewish people in the world realize this is wrong and ignore this part of their ancient teachings. Don’t go shaming the whole religion over some violent extremists.

        Israel was also secular when it was founded. Look it up. This is 100% on their government and right wing extremists and not Judiasm as a whole.

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          I do my best to always use the word Zionist before the word Israeli.

          Israel’s secularism is irrelevant to the overall racist ideology of Zionism that permeates Israeli society.

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          Why shouldn’t I shame the religion because some people choose to ignore part of it?

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            Because if the majority of people following a particular religion reject a prior view as false or wrong, then arguably that view is no longer part of the religion.

            Religions aren’t crisp, unchanging, monolithic entities where everybody believes the same thing forever. If we’re talking about judaism in the sense of the views and practices jewish people actually subscribe to, then that seems like we are referring to beliefs they actually hold in a mainstream/current sense, not beliefs they previous held but now reject?

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              So you’re saying that because a religion allows you to choose which of God’s commandments, carefully passed down through every generation, you personally want to follow based on your gut feeling, can’t be shamed?

              Why should the ones who choose to deny parts of their religion be seen as representative of it over those who’ve chosen to uphold them?

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                So you’re saying that because a religion allows you to choose which of God’s commandments, carefully passed down through every generation, you personally want to follow based on your gut feeling, can’t be shamed?

                No, that is not what I said.

                Why should the ones who choose to deny parts of their religion be seen as representative of it over those who’ve chosen to uphold them?

                I definitely answered this in my original comment.

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          It’s in the religion’s text. “Judaism” is complicated as it can either mean religion, culture or ethnicity/race, but they said “religion teaches”, so we can assume that they’re referring to the practicing religious category.

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      Don’t forget a good chunk of those Israelis are also American.

      We’re not sending our best.

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        As best I can tell, the most racist zionists are usually American-born Israelis.

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      This is quite disturbing, thank you for sharing. I forget that the localised cultural medias on both sides is likely the greater measure of reality but not within most people’s awareness.

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    If a Palestinian said that, they will be immediately branded a terrorist AND get called an Antisemite™ and zionist then walk the street crying about how tough their life are and they just wanna exists.

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      And in all honesty Palestinian people actually have a reason to hate Israel/Zionest. I’m not excusing any violence by anyone, but for example if you asked a Jewish Polish person during the holocaust if they hated Germany/Nazies, no one wouldn take their response as a reason to continue the holocaust. Ask any person who’s demographic is being ethnicly cleansed what they think about their oppressors, and you’ll always get the same response.

      We know how this ends when the world (mainly the USA) turns a blind eye. Time after time, the world has shown to be deeply blind to genicide against brown people. If the roles were reversed we would have stopped the killing/war already.

      Edit: Grammar

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        The US isn’t turning a blind eye to the genocide this time.
        They’re actively involved.

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        Exactly, that’s the reason the world brand them as terrorist and treat them as such, human being lower than the others. Does the same happened to Israel though?

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        What about-ism doesn’t make it right for either side. The point is most western countries refuse to publicly call out this kind of racism when it comes from Israel for fear of being painted as antisemitic. Conversely, it’s easy for those same countries to ignore genocide in Gaza and the West Bank, and highlight atrocities committed by Hamas as terrorism.

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        Are you saying the oppressed have no right to have negative thoughts and beliefs towards their oppressors? Really the whole of none wester and none northern would like a word with you. Let me ask you something. Would a Jewish person that lived in occupied Poland during the holocaust be chastised for hating German Nazies? Like I’m not excusing violence of any kind but why are the Palestinians being held to a higher standard than the ones with all the power to do mass harm to innocent people? October 7th was a inhumane tragedy! But an October 7th worth of pain, death and tragedy happens to Palestinians over the course of a few months even before Oct 7th. Where is your condemnation of the Zionest people doing those horrific actions? Like wtf. I feel like we are living in Bizarro world!

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      Are you saying there are none to very few Palestinians who publicly push the idea of killing all Israelis?

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          Nope, just wanted to make sure… The reaction should be the same for both if they call for a literal genocide of the other sides people. Regardless of the side, it’s the opinion of terrorist subhumans.

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            Wishing for the death of the side that’s actively ethnically cleansing your side is definitely not the same as wishing for the death of all of the people you are ethnically cleansing.

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                So if any Jews, gay people, communists, Roma, etc. during the Holocaust wished death on the Nazis, they were as bad as the Nazis?

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                Do you think killing some random person on the street is equivalent to killing someone in self defence in order to save your own life?

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                  I think targeted mass killing of people of a certain national, ethnical, racial or religious group no matter of their individual actions is a genocide.

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        Are you saying the oppressed have no right to have negative thoughts and beliefs towards their oppressors? Really the whole of none wester and none northern would like a word with you. Let me ask you something. Would a Jewish person that lived in occupied Poland during the holocaust be chastised for hating German Nazies? Like I’m not excusing violence of any kind but why are the Palestinians being held to a higher standard than the ones with all the power to do mass harm to innocent people? October 7th was a inhumane tragedy! But an October 7th worth of pain, death and tragedy happens to Palestinians over the course of a few months even before Oct 7th. Where is your condemnation of the Zionest people doing those horrific actions? Like wtf. I feel like we are living in Bizarro world!

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    They are just saying the quiet part out loud. This is what zionest and the Christian right want. But there is no magical button to make 5 million people go away. So it’s bombs and starvation as their buttons to push. How many times do they have to tell us why they are doing obviously genicidal acts before we do something?

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        They’re already letting a polio outbreak happen.

        Polio. That disease most of the world got rid of through modern hygine and vaccines. They’ve bombed them back to the 1500’s. It’s disgusting.

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    At this point I vote we forcibly remove EVERYBODY from the entirety of Israel and Palestine. If they can’t share it nicely, nobody should get to have it.

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        They said remove, not murder. Realistically it would never work without creating huge problems for all involved, but I’m sure they were mostly joking.

        Like " no body gets to play with the ball if you can’t share nicely" … not, murder the kids.

        Edit: this is about clarifying someone’s word, not my view… You can’t just move everyone lol

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    Funny, if you’d do this in my country you’d get into trouble. But Israeli genocide is so hot right now it seems.

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    wow, would you be ok to boil them and make soap as well? or make random medical experiments on them maybe?

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    I guess getting genocided makes it more likely to commit one yourself.

    Maybe Palestinians will be the genocidal cunts in the year 2104 if this pattern holds. Weird to think about.

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      Don’t confuse Israelis with all Jews, especially not with the ones that got genocided.

      Never forget that actual Holocaust Survivors have been deemed antisemitic by Israelis for comparing some of the actions of Israel with those of the Nazis.

      More broadly only a handful of people who were directly affected by the Holocaust still live, of which only a fraction in Israel, none of which are the ones doing this (if only because they’re too old) or in Government. In fact the majority of the families in Israel were never affected by the Holocaust even indirectly because most come from elsewhere than Western Europe, a large fraction of whom from Russia.

      There is no such thing as a “Jewish Hive Mind” (or whatever the magical thing that would be necessary for every member of the Jewish Religion to share the actual trauma lived by some) which means that the vast majority of these murdering ethno-Fascist psychopaths have no real relation to the Holocaust other than sharing a religious affiliation with the biggest group of victims of it, a distant and entirely “in paper only” link.

      So it’s not at all surprising that people who have never actually experienced the trauma of being victimized in that way but grew up immersed in the kind of racist indoctrination that tells them they’re part of a “chosen people” and hence inherently special themselves, unlike other people, especially the ones being oppressed in their name who they are told are “violent” and even “human animals”, would do such a thing to those other people: in fact the surprise is how long it took the rest of us to discover how much of it they were already doing and discover the true depth of their depravity.

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      If we remove the outside resistance, no, just as likely simply because of being of genocidal species.

      If we don’t, then being genocided yourself and becoming treated specially because of that does, yes.

      First, because of being treated specially. Second, because of those likely to commit genocide supporting you to minimize their PR expenses, and thus your friends and allies being genocidal.

      Israel’s allies are like US and Germany, which, BTW, has made such notable apologetic actions and reparations only in case of the Holocaust, - they haven’t done anything except the official apology in case of Herero genocide, and their stance on the Armenian genocide was just recognizing it without criminalizing denial, and with very little attention to German Empire’s role in organizing it (basically German military advisors in the Ottoman Empire were involved in this as much as they were in actual warfare).

      I don’t think I need to say anything about US, even the political status of Native Americans in the US could be something better.

      But Israel is also friendly with Turkey - Israel has the PR advantage of being a genocide survivor nation, and Turkey has a resources and strategic position advantage of unpunished genocide perpetrator nation. One needs the resources help, another needs the PR help. They satisfy each other’s needs, and really a lot of basic goods in Israel are actually produced in Turkey. Even some military stuff.

      Strangely enough it’s the same with Germany - they are clutching at every opportunity to publicly support Israel, and wave that support against anything bad they do. “We are friendlier with Israel than you” is their indulgence against anything.

      This is, of course, solvable in the balancing way - Israel’s Holocaust PR should be universally shunned and condemned, their agent network investigated, exposed and controlled, and their military kicked out of Palestine, and Turkey should be kicked out with carpet bombings out of Western Armenia, Pontus, Assyria and Cilicia. It takes resources, like everything else. But the reward is huge for those of us not making money on suffering.

      The problem is the psychopatic way geopolitics work currently. Peaceful West Asia, less corrupt\poor Latin America, less uneducated\poor sub-Saharan Africa could make our whole world far richer and pleasant to live in. But it would definitely change all the elites and ways of existence of currently powerful countries.