How exactly are Gazans human shields? In what meaningful sense? Being in your home near something Israel deems a target doesn’t make you a shield, does it?

Voluntary vs involuntary human shields.

Who is voluntary?

It is meaningfully different, yes.

Glad we agree. And much worse, imo.

~5 people < ~2,000,000 people.

The rest of this all depends on how exactly you’re alleging that 2 million people are human shields and not just humans

And then they cheer with giddy excitement when their own families get killed, just so they can bitch about how they are the real victims.

Come on now. Is this easily verified? Is it even true?

Hamas uses entire cities. Millions of people.

Can you explain exactly how? How can someone sat in their home above a tunnel they did not create or possibly even know about be a human shield? That is meaningfully different to being strapped to the front of a car or forced into a booby trapped tunnel at gunpoint, no?

Feeling pretty lucky that the “free shots” when I went were apparently actually ethanol. Better to be careful but when you’re a few drinks deep, a little high and floating down a river on a tire inner tube, bad decisions do happen.

In Vang Vieng, stick to the beer and avoid any of the swings, slides and other bullshit at these riverside bars. I saw one guy literally in a full body cast because of this shit.

And for fucks sake stop accusing the IDF of using human shields. That happened like literally five times.

It seems pretty reasonable to accuse them of something they have done repeatedly.

And this isn’t “minding their own business near something we want to bomb,” like the claims against Hamas, these are cases of people literally and directly used as shields.

Now what political party does this remind me of… hmmm…

Sure, then: Designed to conflate non English speakers with illegal immigrants. Still racist.

But even ignoring the hyperbole (ie never again = much less) it is still clearly implying that people who don’t speak English are illegals. Of course that is dehumanizing. And obviously false, designed to conflate non English speakers with people who crossed the border illegally.

Since when are illegals the only people who don’t speak English?

They’re not.

So if you think deporting “illegals” will mean you don’t have to hear any Spanish etc, you are actually conflating this with deporting basically all foreigners and that is racist. All foreigners are not “illegals”

The US set out specific criteria, such as 350 aid trucks need to enter every day.

This is what makes this especially infuriating. If you wanted to just say it’s fine in a month as long as they “tried,” don’t put a firm number on it. If you do put the number and yet you don’t care whether they actually meet it, you are treating us all with absolute contempt. Like we’re fucking morons who don’t understand how numbers or concrete demands work.

And that’s before we consider the moral implications. Did Biden stop caring whether people are starving in the past month? There is no excuse and I hope he ends up on trial for his role in this before he dies.

Ah so you’re a troll

I agree. It’s just not relevant to this discussion

Why would you assume I thought Trump was going to change anything?

Yes, let’s. Or is he not president anymore? Who the fuck else should we blame

The US is a fucking joke. Biden should be ashamed of himself

Of course “70% of the victims are either children or women” sounds horrible

That’s because it is horrible. The vast majority of Israel’s victims are innocent and that includes adult males, the vast majority of whom are also innocent.

I meant to comment on the data in the context of ‘biggest bar’

I didn’t even pay attention the post title for some reason, I just went straight to the graph! But yeah the population pyramid shows the issue with that claim.

Anyway, no worries and no harm done! I appreciate the clarification

Important points! It was just an off the cuff comparison

IMO, it’s not a great data set to claim Israelis are intentionally targeting children, but it is pretty good for saying they are not intentionally targeting military-age men.

Agree completely. I don’t think they’re intentionally targeting children but it does not look like they are targeting any subgroup in particular.

My original intent was just to say it looks pretty close to what you’d expect if you just dropped bombs at random. I might look to find better data later on

Good spot! Thanks

Unfortunately the genders are on opposite sides here but compare these two graphs and tell me the bombing is not indiscriminate