The best part is that Elon is proving to be a pro at losing money left and right while simultaneously inventing new ways to make a social media platform suck to use.

I mean there’s admiring a ruthless mob boss - and then there is admiring a petty thief that keeps getting arrested and all his plans blow up in this face.

Spez is losing his tiny mind.

Wait until you have to be logged in to read any posts on Reddit.

I’m down, Spez. What’s bad for Reddit is good for us.

If your company cares about it’s SEO rankings, you don’t make changes like these without considering the SEO implications.

Elongated Muskrat 🤣

No it’s just one guy called Dev.

My understanding is there’s group of people whose visa is sponsored by Twitter. If they leave the company, they may well have to leave the country.

Twitter’s dev(s)

My urge to eat a liberal amount popcorn has been triggered a lot by twitter’s slow motion train wreck.

He’s the child of an emerald mine owner. Do people think that men like that choose wives based on how good a mother they’ll be? Doubt.

“CFU of Twitter” does have a nice ring to it

Then Spez could be CFU of Reddit. I kinda miss Ellen Pao. And Chooter.

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Yeah that’s crazy, I was furious when they fired Victoria back in the day. It’s nice to see that Alexis Ohanian is the one who deserves the blame for that massive fuckup. Man that gives me a pang of nostalgia for the old days of reddit though. Interesting that the Wiki article points to Obama’s presidency and the 08 financial collapse as a “glass cliff” event.

Remember this?

-( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯╲___卐卐卐卐 Don’t mind me just taking Ellen Pao for a walk

I’m always totally surprised how willfully European governments have put so much power into the hands of Twitter. Nearly every organization and politician has a Twitter account to be used for official and semi-official communication. And Twitter isn’t and was never really very popular in Europe compared to Facebook and other social networks, which these same organizations and politicians demonized to the max. I hope this is a wake up call: there are no inherently good centralized and commercialized social networks fit for communicating important information to an audience of potentially everyone.

I disagree.

Twitter was one of the largest social media platforms on the planet, and was especially huge in the US. Before Musk bought it it didn’t show any signs of failure. It lasted over a decade, and had enough reach that I think it made a lot of sense for things like emergency alerts, government officials, etc. to use it as one means, even a main means, of disseminating information. It was really effective at that until what, a year ago?

I don’t think anyone really predicted Elon Musk buying Twitter and running it into the ground within a year. Yes, it was hypothetically possible in our capitalist system, but there was no indication that it would until Elon made a joking tweet.

Because of how the modern internet has organized itself, it was inevitable that critical systems would utilize Twitter for it’s reach.

I think you’re applying hindsight and expecting people to have made decisions based on events that hadn’t happened yet. Before musk bought Twitter it wasn’t at all unreasonable for people to rely on it for information from government officials because it was the format millions of people were accustomed to receiving that information in every day.

It’s like this. Ambulance use the road even if the the hospitals didn’t build it. Now imagine, twitter is the road.

I haven’t looked at Mastodon at all yet so I don’t really know how it works, but from what I have gathered, it is not dissimilar from lemmy but for microblogs. I suppose the main similarity is its distributed network which I agree is a better solution than a centralized server. Hopefully that statement ages well.

This is such a good way to word this kind of phenominon. Conspiracies as distraction.

Its also funny, because its a conspiracy about conspiracies lol

astroturfed strawmanned groups such as extinction rebellion

What’s wrong with XR?

I think it’s far more simple that humans have a tendency to fractionalize everything they’re apart of than it is a projection global conspiracy.

Some animal rights activists believe humans can have beneficial, symbiotic relationships with animals, like working dogs/horses, free range chickens that are well cared for, stuff like that.

Some animal rights activists think the concept of a working dog/horse as abhorrent because animals can’t actually consent to that, the power dynamic makes it unethical, and utilizing the labor of an animal for personal gain is basically just slavery for a creature with less intelligence.

These two groups are closer to each other than they are to any right person that doesn’t care at all for animals, but are still so dynamically opposed that they simply couldn’t operate together because their end goals are dramatically different.

I’m a hardcore progressive. I will work with a capitalist democrat to get my goals met, but I wouldn’t associate with them if I had a better option.

Well said, thanks for doing the good work of pointing this out.

See other “grassroots” movements such as the Tea Party, Moms for Liberty, TPUSA, etc for the other side of this. These groups have clear and documented funding from billionaire interest groups and conveniently allow corporate media to conflate such far right groups with progressive movements as the same level of extremism.

Well said. Razors are guides in developing theories, not evidence. To present them as evidence is a fallacy. The above conjecture isn’t better explained by stupidity, thats the whole point.

Thank you. I think this is an important nit to pick in the context of this particular discussion.

Ignoring the evidence of Musk’s Twitter nonsense benefiting the same people who helped fund his Twitter buy out is something you could attribute Hanlon’s razor to.

Normally I would tend to agree with you, but look where Musk got his “loans” to buy out Twitter. Saudi Arabia and Russia where big “lenders”.

I think it’s more reasonable to believe that Musk bought Twitter just to shut that down and now it’s a toy he can play with, where every time he merely touches it, media jumps on it, which feeds his ego massively.

That’s definitely true. I think it’s also true that the people who financed it were doing so to take advantage of that to their own ends.

I don’t know about Spez but I don’t think that’s how Musk and Zuck are motivated. The money is a secondary effect of their goal of being “Great Men” in history. Seen through that lens, taking control of the main public square, changing the nature of discussion there (and taking as much credit for it as possible) is an end unto itself for Musk. Especially when you consider that, if he is able to both control and maintain Twitter as the main locus of online discussion, it allows him to try to reshape the wider narrative about the value and importance of his work in general.

I mean, yes, but I think “sometimes” really underestimates role money plays in a capitalist world. Money is power. People who tell you otherwise are trying to sell you something.

Great point, and I do think you’re right because that is the most sensible answer to what the motives behind these recent decisions are. There has been a nonstop flow of cheap debt for years that the fed is just now tightening up on.

But these business decisions also happen to align with the interests of deep pocketed bad actors. The why’s of that are conspiracy theories.

In general: cloud provider’s marginal costs for continue to host something while a customer doesn’t pay is negligible. Keeping it running while incurring more receivables, or blocking access while making it clear there is an easy way to reclaim data and functionality, are immensely more profitable. Nothing to “retaliate” really.

I really hope google spammed musk’s phone with calls about the outstanding balance.

The reality is that this guy leading the company is refusing to pays bills for other services like he is on a bankruptcy spree. So not surprising that people don’t get over his ‘he paid it on this one item, so stop’.

Just because he orderer a massive dinner, and finally paid for the drinks, does not make that guy a person of illl repute.

I finally managed to unsubscribe to that crap. Took me forever!

This became bad enough at my job (I’m a school sysadmin) that I blocked quora.com in our spam filter…students had a habit of signing up for it and like you said, it’s damn near impossible to unsubscribe, let alone show 200+ kids how to unsubscribe.

Good advice except you forgot the minus symbol, this tip will ONLY get Pinterest links.

I think the point is to NOT have pinterest spam your search results that you cannot see without an account.

100k people isn’t nobody. Centralized services can be useful at times, but there is no fundamental law preventing a decentralized system from providing the same functionality.

The value of indexing data drops drastically when much of that data is junk, as is the case in the wider internet. Because Lemmy is a federation, there is a built in system to filter the junk.

I want a federated wiki. But bad actors resistant somehow.

Lol nice. The pace of development of Lemmy is unreal. I’ve only been here a month and it’s already so much easier to use than in the beginning.

People at large really need to remember not every kind of growth is good: it has to be sustainable, and only happen until where it’s needed.

Unlimited growth is basically cancer, and that’s what big corpos feel to society tbh.

That sleeping giant has woken up. And it has morning wood.