Confirmed by AP news here (go directly to slide 4 in the slideshow for more information)
For those who don’t want to click the link:
I think you guys are being a bit over the top here about his:
Germans made three political concessions: It was stipulated that the division shall not be used to fight Western Allies, and would be used exclusively to “fight Bolsheviks”. The other concession was in that its oath of allegiance to Hitler was conditional on the fight against Bolshevism.
Good thing there’s no link between anti communism and fascism
Yes he took the oath of allegiance to the head nazi, but how do we know he was actually a nazi and not just a brave freedom fighter?
In the 50s and 60s, the easiest way to gain entry into Canada for immigration was to show a Nazi tattoo. This proved one was ideologically anti-communist and thus safe.
had me in the first half
Things the ‘good guys’ do:
Bring out and parade around a Nazi for applause while brazenly lying about his actual identity and the nature of his service
Bolshevism didn’t exist during WWII, therefore the Ukrainian SS division wasn’t actually loyal to Hitler
Formed in 1943, it was largely destroyed in the battle of Brody
Completely unsurprising lmfao. The majority of SS volunteer formations absolutely sucked in combat, exceptions being for example “Nordland” but their actions were completely reckless and suicidal, achieving nothing in return. “Galizien” was among the terrible ones, units like these were good in nothing else than “anti partisan activities”, and that often means pure war crimes – hanging suspected partisans, surrendered partisans or general combat with irregular units, where the Germans conducted their war with no rules whatsoever. But when the time to face the actual Red Army came, these units were almost always utterly swept aside by the Soviets. After a good few days of intense beatings, their remnants would pull back and reorganize far from the front, where they resumed “anti partisan activities”. “Galizien” took part in supressing the Slovak National Uprising, which they did by massacring civilians.
Also being volunteer formations make every single soldier absolutely guilty of every terrible action their units did, if some soldiers were forced into service there might be an argument, but there isn’t, because each one of these fucks knew what they were doing. I am glad the Red Army brought ultimate justice to these pieces of shit, althrough this one might have slipped away.
And he slipped away to Canada like a fucking rat. And years later, Canada would give this fuck a standing ovation. Canada. Ask Canadian WW2 vets what they thought of the SS, ask any of their Normandy vets what they would do to any prisoner belonging to the “SS Hitlerjugend” division, this unit has a very particular history with Canadians. The SS commited numerous war crimes against Canadian troops in WW2, and these motherfuckers are now giving them standing ovations? Man fuck the west, fuck every bit of this worthless concept. Fuck all liberals, motherfuckers are an insult even to their own history.
that often means pure war crimes
It 100% meant pure war crimes. It’s not like they had any competence for actual police work or any discipline for actual garrison duty or anything else valuable.
fidel needs to come back and beat some sense into his son
hello son
There’s actually large Ukrainian exile groups living in Canada, including some linked to OUN-B (Organization Ukrainian Nationalists - Bandera faction)
https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-canadian-bandera-network
Here’s a Ukrainian-Canadian high school student holding a picture of the genocidal Yaroslav Stetsko
Here’s a bunch of Ukrainian-Canadian children in front of a giant bust of the genocidal Roman Shukhevych
Some info about Stetsko/Shukhevych (source: https://archive.md/GZa2H):
Just goes to show you that the war against fascism is global. There is no “fleeing” to places like Canada to get away from this shit. You must arm yourself and get ready to kill fascists within your life time.
Parading around the OUN flag… That really disturbs me. No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except “history repeats itself”, pretending it’s a law of physics.
Our Deputy Prime Minister Christian Freeland was more than happy to pose behind the banner last year
She was also probably the first person to trot out the “mentioning Ukrainian nazis is Russian propaganda!” line when asked why her grandfather worked for a nazi propaganda rag.
No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except “history repeats itself”, pretending it’s a law of physics.
They sure seem to want it to repeat itself as many times as needed
Legit, if I found out my child’s school in a “progressive country” made students march around honoring nazis, I would tell my kid to become a bully
I would bully the shit out of the faculty
The color of the shirts on the first photo, eh, does check out.
Completely on brand and absolutely no one in the MSM sphere will question who was fighting against the Russians in WW2
Right this way 
when are we going to hear about brave resistance to the Russians liberating Auschwitz
I did not have that on my bingo card for this year.
I definitely did, it was easy to see the liberals slipping into fascism from the very start
AP news wrote a lot of words when they could’ve just said Stalin shouldn’t have stopped at Berlin.
Edit: Also, I’m overflowing with tankie energy right now.
Get it up to 340 kW and you can start a T-34 and do… things.
Like going to Ottawa?
That was awesome, how do you find shit like this?
The youtube algorithm has a detailed map of my brain.
Weird that the call it the First Ukrainian Division when it was called "SS Schuetzen Division “Galizien” when this old Nazi bitch joined up. For a real ass patriot like this fella it’s weird he joined this outfit considering “The terms “Ukrainian”, “Ukraine”, could not be used when addressing the division, stressing the Imperial Austro-Hungarian heritage of the term “Galizien”.”
Also found out that this evil cocksucker might’ve seen fucking Himmler himself when he gave his division a speech.
This is not even about supporting Ukraine anymore. It’s just glorification of Nazis.
It was easily predicted that the west wouldn’t liberalize Ukraine, but that Ukraine would fascitize the west (even further).
Liberalism morphs into fascism when threatened under war conditions. Of course the west would become extra fascist from getting heavily involved with a war on behalf of fascists. It’s so frustrating that we could see this was going to happen but could do nothing to stop it.
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quote about using fascism to defend capitalism while claiming to protect democracy from communismOne of the founding countries of NATO was Portugal, which was under a FASCIST dictatorship under Salazar. It’s always been clear what NATO is.
Liberalism morphs into fascism when threatened under war conditions
that’s not remotely how it works
fascism is an ideology that tends to crop up in societies where hiring gangs of thugs to brutalise people is an accepted and common part of the economy and political system and there is a threat of communism to react to
Wrong. Liberalism and fascism are the same exact thing under different parts of the capitalist cycle. They are the same people fighting for the same interests.
If fascism requires a credible communist threat, why is it so widespread in Ukraine where there is no serious socialist center of power or movement? Fascism does require anti-communism, but it doesn’t require actual communists to oppose, just the Spectre of one in their imagination. It will find a suitable scapegoat and label it cultural marxist (as seen by the labeling of the Russian’s as “the new USSR” and conspiracies about Putin being controlled by the “commie Jews” or the “chicoms”)
Fascism does arise in crumbling capitalist states in periods of crisis, that much is true which is why I said it’s Liberalism under bad conditions.
societies where hiring gangs of thugs to brutalise people is an accepted and common part of the economy and political system
So cops?
Always important to point out that more Ukrainian fought in the Red Army in WW2 than with the Nazi collaborators. Just to piss off the “national liberation” crowd.
Zelensky’s fucking grandpa fought for the Soviets
I live happily knowing zelenskys grandpa would love to send his grandson to a gulag
Like, an entire additional digit more
a lot more, I want to say like 8 times as many but I don’t remember clearly
From basic googling I found ~250,000 Ukrainian collaborators in various ways and 7 million Ukrainians in the Red Army, 4 million in the Ukraine campaign alone.
These are photos of SS Galicia Division veteran who was given standing ovation by Canadian parliament, prime-minister of Canada and president of Ukraine. He published these photos of himself in this division during training in Germany.
He wrote that he volunteered to join SS Galicia Division in 1943 in Ternopil region in Western Ukraine
https://twitter.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1705739708683128836
Ironically less nazi imagery in photos of the original nazis than I see in photos of ukrainian troops in 2023.
Really makes you think
all nazis born after 1990 know is buy sonnerad pins on etsy, get arty striked after livestreaming yourself seig heiling on telegram, eat hot chip, and lie
Well they just considered it the natural state of things, whereas current Nazis need to assert themselves loudly because they think they don’t have any power. Of course, they are wrong, they have lots of power in the Western world, but it is mostly stealthy and surrounded by liberal civility.
Like a rogue section of frontal lobe that doesn’t recognize it’s own limbs
Lol he joined right when they were starting to lose lol
Being a leftist and knowing the actual history seems like some kinda clown-car damnation from time to time. This is one of those times.
I wouldn’t say there’s a correlation in knowing the actual history. Those guys are just modest about the Nazi part, but well aware of it. They just want to reduce the attack surface.
So calling them Nazis and treating as such is fair.
not even one of the contemporary kkklown divisions that litter ukkkraine, but one of the OG nazis. not surprised tbh
You may be right, but Ukraine is still a defending country facing many war crimes by the attacker. Which also hasn’t provoked that attack in any way.
Other than bombing civilians for a decade and sending neonazi terrorists to harass and murder them and attempting to join an aggressive military alliance that was created to encircle and destroy their neighbor, sure, they didn’t do anything to provoke it.
It’s one thing to think Ukraine is the “better” side on balance but to claim that they didn’t do anything to provoke an attack just shows that you don’t know anything about what’s been going on in the region.
I don’t give a single flying fuck who you’re fighting, if you’re fighting with nazis YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE
Canadians just discovered that Ukraine has a history of commiting genocide, making them kindred spirits
The word nazi doesn’t even appear in that AP article what the fuuuuck
Not even the words “SS” or “German”. The average unbiased, unpropagandized westerner will read the caption and think “whoa wholesome Ukrainian military unit”
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/16qxada/zelenskyy_joins_canadian_parliaments_ovation_to/ of course
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Post it in the lemmy worldnews comm.
Worldnews from
is deleting it on sight.Funny to see the narrative crumble bit by bit.
Got banned from there months ago for “spreading Russian misinformation” when I said “I don’t think we should give self avowed nazis a bunch of military gear with no strings attached because after the war they’ll still have them and use them to do nazi shit in a newly destabilized region”
Does saying “I told you so” ever actually get you anything or are the libs gonna ignore the fact they’ve been wrong about everything for decades until they get us all killed.
Does saying “I told you so” ever actually get you anything
It doesn’t, after Azov transforms into Azov Qaeda or whatever after the war libs will just lie saying they never supported the proxy war in Ukraine anyway and they’ll just jump back into the 24h news cycle to support some other far-right group in Taiwan instead.
