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Good short-term cure for acute fascists, but the long-term cure for fascism is to run society so the vast majority of people are very happy, so they don’t fall for con artists who promise to relieve their misery.
Even with growing disparity between the ultra wealthy and regular people most people in developed countries still score very highly for human development with a lot of freedoms, access to health, education and live reasonably prosperous lives by historical standards.
Its been a long time since most of us saw widespread famine or war or plagues decimating our populations. There is good reason to demand more social and economic progress which you would think would increase the appeal of that and not the politics of self destruction. There is no sane reason to burn it all down for most people.
Yet fascism still seems to be in a massive resurgence. Something really odd is happening. There is a huge information war that has seriously undermined society. It has taken over many religious groups, outsider groups like conspiracy believers and alt health, and conservative leaning parties. It is in online gaming and image boards and normie social media. It preys on socially immature young men, appealing to their insecurities. It preys on people looking for spiritual connections and community. Seeing peace and love hippies standing side by side with Christians and full on Nazis is fucking weird but I saw it during COVID.
The fascists were always there but they were not a political force and there is no reason they should ever be again. Not sure why it is happening or why we are letting it happen. It is certainly not in our interests. It always ends badly.
Just because many idiots operate it doesn’t mean everyone who uses it is an idiot. Tell me again, how did the Nazi regime collapse in the 40s?
You realized they just posted the full quote of what Hitchcock was saying and you’re arguing it when you posted the image it was based on?
Idiots and operating things is right.
So brainrotten, you dont even understand who your allies and enemies are.
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Why do you even post a meme when you’re going to do this to people who literally showed up here to agree with you
Villain is literally in his name
I thought it was the other guy at first who posted the same thing in disagreement and I’m at work doing other things. I can post whatever I want lol who cares. Also I didn’t disagree with anyone, just asked a question and got accusations and called brainrot. Imagine the brainrot of using moronic internet speak. That person is a hostile nerd regardless of what they think lol.
edit: Please keep using your impotent downvotes that don’t federate to my instance
Lol at this fragility
I don’t think you should operate a keyboard, but obviously you do.
Why would I care what you think?
You just asked them a question…
Guns are ubiquitous because idiots can operate them. Many of the guys who took down Hitler were dummies.
The shitstain Stewart Rhodes lost his eyeball when he attempted to clean a loaded pistol. Yep, there are dumb fucking idiots with guns.
My wife shot herself in the eye with a confetti cap gun last night trying to see if it was loaded. She literally pointed it at her face and pulled the trigger.
The real quote where he mocks violent idiots (after presenting it as a cure for insomnia):
Oh my god, it is almost like people use memes to communicate ideas that are different than the original source.
Not all violence is equal. The only way to stop a Nazi is to bash them. If you deny that, you’re a liberal which is a fascist collaborator. You’re going to sleep walk your way into Nazism.
The only way to stop a Nazi is to bash them.
There’s another, more effective and less violent and non-solipsistic way. A great deal of the power of fascism stems from their economic position. Guys like Zuck and Elon are dangerous because of their enormous wealth, not merely because of their toxic political views.
And since you can’t just Luigi Mangione the problem of economic elitism, you need collective action at an economic level to starve out the beast.
Incidentally, the “starve the beast” strategy is a conservative approach historically espoused and employed by Grover Norquist, Tom DeLay, and now (via the guise of DEI) Bill Ackman, Peter Thiel, and Donald Trump. Its incredibly effective, because it eliminates the ability of the opposition to effectively organize and administer large groups of professionals.
Plenty of broke Nazis out there…
They’re not the ones in the White House flipping switches
You’re a right wing troll undermining the leftist message.
If you think nonviolence is core to the left wing, you need to go ahead and find a nice subreddit to join. Liberals aren’t left wing.
Liberals are left wing and theyre only non violent when its unnecessary
Nice deflection. Nothing about leftism or anarchism involves eschewing violence. Read some fucking theory lib. You’re spewing liberal bullshit designed to empower fascists. You have to fight to win, so you’ve already lost, loser.
I always love these “conversations”.
You want to achieve 80% of the same things I do, but you’re non violent so fuck you LiB!!
You’re a right wing troll.
You came out swinging defending someone suggesting we murder leftists in response to a meme talking about the necessity of armed resistance against fascism.
Nope. You don’t even believe that. Your CIA handler told you to pretend to believe it.
The person you were defending outright suggested this meme, violence as a measure to stop fascism, be extended to Leftists. What did you mean to do?
You’re a liberal troll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNv6BrL_FgM
I’m a right wing troll because I want to… checks notes: protect myself, my family and my community against fascists and right wingers.
Personally, I’d prefer a larger caliber for Nazi hunting.
nooo we have to debate them in the marketplace of ideas and then ultimately let them win 😭😭😭
We have better applicators now that can cure a plethora of fascists in one swift move.
Medical technology sure has come a long way. I cant imagine why anyone would be doubtful of it
Things that would garner negative attention today, but that were still pretty cool way back when.
Rectally works best
Nice un
What video is this from?
Who is more fascist? 🤣
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Really telling how you feel the need to be anti-Communist on an antifascist meme. Specially when it was the “tankies” that destroyed fascism on WW2. But not surprising coming from a naz.ijust.works user
Pivoting from an anti-fascist meme to anti-Communist, very silly
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I can dislike two things at once.
Do you normally shoot everyone you dislike?
Fuck tankies, fuck fascists.
Yes, yes. We know who you are.
The Radical Centrist that goes to war with every other corner of the political spectrum and ends up turning on itself. Ur-Liberalism. The snake eating its own tail of political thought.
Again, pivoting from an anti-fascist meme to add an anti-Communist message is deeply silly, especially considering it was the Red Army that saved the world from the Nazis by doing 80% of the entire combat in Europe in WWII against the Nazis.
I don’t have anything against communists. Stalinist tankies are not communists.
The USSR was Socialist, as is Cuba, Vietnam, Laos, etc. These countries were and are built and run by Marxists, it’s safe to consider these hundreds of millions to be Communists. What “Comminists” are you thinking of that are “true Communists” that disqualifies the hundreds of millions who work to build Socialism in real life?
It was also an authoritarian dictatorship with about as many scruples as the Nazi regime. People seem to forget that saying simply ‘socialism’ ignores the other half of the equation altogether.
No, not even close. The theory of Nazism and Communism as “twin evils” originates with Double Genocide Theory, a form of Holocaust trivialization and Nazi apologia. The USSR was a dictatorship of the proletariat, those oppressed were the Bourgeoisie, Tsarists, and the Nazis. It isn’t a matter of simply saying “socialism,” it’s taking an honest look at history. In reality, there is no comparison to Nazism, which invented industrialized murder and sought to colonize Europe and the world just as Britian, France, Germany herself, and other Western countries had done to the Global South.
I suggest you read Blackshirts and Reds.
Even in Stalin’s time there was collective leadership. The Western idea of a dictator within the Communist setup is exaggerated. Misunderstandings on that subject are caused by lack of comprehension of the real nature and organization of the Communist power structure. Stalin, although holding wide powers, was merely the captain of a team and it seems obvious that Khrushchev will be the new captain.
A lot of the cold war propaganda about the USSR turned out to be bullshit, as contemporary Western academic historians will tell you, including Domenico Losurdo.
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Marx didn’t think those that agreed with him were “nutties,” he didn’t like that people were adopting the mantle of “Marxist.” Secondly, Communism can only be achieved through revolution. It is Captialism that prepares the conditions for revolution, but without revolution the Proletariat never wrests control of Capital, as they sink further and further into destitution as the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall reaches its limits.
The AES states, where the Proletariat has managed to take control, are building towards a collectively owned and planned economy. This is not yet Communism, as Communism is necessarily global, but it is Socialist and those countries like Cuba that are working on that understanding are the Marxists and Communists building Communism in the real world. Further, wealth disparity massively shrank in AES countries and their economies are more democratic than in Capitalist nations.
I really don’t think it makes any sense to consider tech billionaires automating labor as “real Marxists” but those studying Marxism and building Socialism as “fake.”
We’re converging towards Lemmy doing the Matt Christman 2016 election night “Kill yourself and everyone around you!” line, but entirely unironically.
It’s very silly, for sure.
Calling someone a tankie != anticommunist.
The fact that you interpreted it as such speaks a lot about you.
Calling someone a tankie != anticommunist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
The term “tankie” was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defence of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.
The term has extended to describe people who endorse, defend, or deny the actions of communist leaders such as Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong. In recent times, the term has been used across the political spectrum and in a geopolitical context to describe those who have a bias in favour of anti-Western states, authoritarian states, or states with a socialist legacy, such as Belarus, Cuba, China, Syria, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela.
“tankie” is just the Zoomer equivalent of “commie” or “pinko”
The word “tankie” is usually used against anyone that expresses at minimum a moderate level of support for AES countries, so yes, it’s purely for anticommunism. I’ve even seen self-described Anarchists and liberals called tankies, it’s a term that has no real meaning other than “Communism bad.”
Yeah that’s BS. Tankies are supporters of authoritarians, specifically ‘communist’ authoritarians (Stalin, Mao, Xi)
Supporting AES does not mean blindly upholding every action taken by every leader of every AES country. The “tankies” that do so are made of straw in the minds of liberals. Rather, it is usually those that denounce “tankies” that make a dogmatic error of reducing AES countries purely to their leaders, and not the hundreds of millions of Marxists and Communists that work and run the AES countries.
Even the CPC’s official stance on Stalin and Mao is “70% good, 30% bad” each.
The “tankies” that do so are made of straw in the minds of liberals.
I must be god because my mind can manifest comments on the Internet.
Show some.
When someone does tankie things, it is valid to call them a tankie. Quacks like a duck and all that…
Also, I had to google ‘AES communism’ to figure out wtf you were talking about. American Education Service? Advanced Encryption Standard? AES the energy company? Define your acronyms and abbreviations, everybody. AES stands for ‘actually existing socialism’ in this context.
I don’t know what “does tankie things” means. The people that think Stalin, Mao, etc have done nothing wrong whatsoever are practically non-existent. The closest to genuinely evil “communists” would be the Gonzaloists that defend the Peruvian Shining Path, and frequently Pol Pot as well, but even suggesting that it’s a great thing that the USSR provided free and high quality healthcare and education gets you labeled a tankie instantly.
AES refers to Actually Existing Socialism, yes, it’s an acronym used for states like Cuba that have Socialism in the real world. Marxists use it frequently when talking about existing examples of Marxist application, without having to list every country that has some form of Socialism in place.
Tankies aren’t pro-communist.
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It’s not weed in that bong is it
