• otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    12 days ago

    Similar to other landfowl (turkey, grouse, etc.), the meat is more nuanced & flavorful than the poultry many are accustomed to, and can often be compared to that of a lean duck or even goose.

    Also, if you’re cooking any meat “well done”, you’re destroying it. If you “prefer” it that way, you’re a gawdamned idiot. 🤌🏽

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        11 days ago

        Are you so blithely naive that you think that, across all of reality itself, cooking temps are either “well done” or “medium rare”? 🥲

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      12 days ago

      You mean unlike other land fowl? Duck and goose is delicious. Turkey not so much.

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        I ended up stumbling into an amazing way to cook turkey this year after we decided we didn’t want to get up early enough to cook it the way we normally would. Instead, we decided it would be better to carve up the raw bird into smaller pieces and cook it over a wood fire. Did the carving the day before, seasoned it with salt, pepper, and a bit of sugar.

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          12 days ago

          It sounds like the term you’re looking for is “spatchcock”, and one of my heavy lifters. My man Alton’s the Bill Nye of badass cookin’ w/ SCIENCE!, NGL.

          Aside, one of the most cost effective ways to dish up fancy AF, for as little cost or effort as possible: spatchcock game hens, marinate 12-24hrs, pan sear/grill with fresh herbs (seasonal pairings that are widely available locally [store or wild/farm], for example, fall: pepitas, sumac, marjoram; winter: celeriac, rosemary, root veg, alliums; spring: spruce tips, sage [overdone, IMHO😅), mint; summer: culantro, dill, tarragon, etc.)

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            11 days ago

            No, I didn’t just cut it open. I cut it apart. Drumstick here, wing there, breast meat, small bits because I’m bad at doing the proper cuts. The closest I came to marinating was just tossing it in some salt and pepper for seasoning and sugar for color. Never heard of culantro before, but from the sounds of it, it seems like just a stronger, probably soapier version of cilantro. I’ll skip that.

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                11 days ago

                Bruh you misunderstood, don’t gaslight. They didn’t spatchcock their bird, they broke it down/butchered it into individual pieces, dry brined it, and roasted it

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                  11 days ago

                  Broder, don’t white knight at windmills. They didn’t read the article and posted a wild guess (incorrect) as justification for a glibly ignorant opinion.

                  Also, broke down/butchered is an approximation, sure, but “adding salt & pepper” to said carrion pile is as much “dry brining” as “soaking” isn’t sex.

                  We can do better.

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                    11 days ago

                    Dawg they clearly said they cut their bird up into pieces, describing a process very obviously distinct from spatchcocking, yet you took that and ran all the way to spatchcocking for some reason, and then got upset that they don’t have the astounding culinary background you seem to think you have I guess? “Broke down/butchered” is not an approximation, they’re more technical terms for the exact process they’re describing. Dry brining is nothing more than putting salt on meat and letting it rest for a period of time. Calling someone “glibly ignorant” for not knowing those culinary terms, and describing their process as “adding salt pepper to a carrion pile” is reductive, elitist, and arrogant, no windmills about it.

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                    10 days ago

                    I looked at the article about spatchcocking. It did not resemble what I did. I also looked at the link about culantro vs cilantro and made an educated guess, having accidentally soap-fumed my kitchen in the past by chopping up cilantro. Were you telling me I should try spatchcocking next year? Based on how things cooked this year, I doubt I’ll be doing that. Different parts of the bird cooked at different rates and needed to come off of the fire pit at different times. Are you just some smartass trying to show off what you learned in culinary school this week? That’s a good way to become a meme, like a certain high school kid in the 2000s who had seen plenty of photoshops in his time and wanted the world to know about it.

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        12 days ago

        turkey is amazing if cooked right, i prefer it to chicken. most people cook it too hot/long and don’t baste, so it’s dry af

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          11 days ago

          You just get a lot of people who cook turkey exactly once per year, don’t do a particularly good job, and then ruin everybody’s expectations of the bird.

          Plus or minus turkey lunch meat, which is usually mediocre at best.

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            11 days ago

            mmm i started buying fresh cut turkey deli meat, changed my game. i switch between Cajun Turkey and sun dried tomato. pair it with Amish mayo/mustard. so good

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        12 days ago

        I think it’s more gamey than poultry, is what he might have meant.

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        12 days ago

        Don’t blame the ingredients for the chef’s shite skills. I have converted diehard-but-curious vegetarians with turkey alone. I’m sorry your experience has been wholly negative, and I genuinely wish you better luck in the future. 🧑🏼‍🍳