House Republicans have voted down an effort to block immigration enforcers from using federal resources to detain or deport U.S. citizens.

During a House Judiciary Committee meeting on Wednesday, Democrats tabled amendments to a sweeping budget bill that President Donald Trump has dubbed “one big, beautiful bill.”

One amendment introduced by Representative Pramila Jayapal, the Democrat from Washington state, sought to make clear Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cannot detain or deport U.S. citizens under any circumstances. GOP lawmakers killed that amendment.

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    Words matter. They are not deporting citizens. They are kidnapping and quite possibly murdering. It’s a crime. Acknowledge this for the crime that it is. Call it human trafficking. But deporting it is not.

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      Right, so we should add language to the bill that says you can’t kidnap and murder US citizens and then see how that’s used in court when the other side says they merely deported the person.

      Brilliant strategy.

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      If words matter, I’m curious to know what definition of “deporting” you are using to claim that what they are doing is not deporting people.

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        Til, I guess to vcan technically deport a citizen.

        deport dɪˈpɔːt verb

        • expel (a foreigner) from a country, typically on the grounds of illegal status or for having committed a crime.
        • exile (a native) to another country.
        • conduct oneself in a specified manner. archaic
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          Indeed.

          Of course, they are doing all the other for you mentioned, too. Morally, even if not legally. IANAL, so I can’t speak with authority.

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    They added it to an omnibus bill, is it another flaw of the US system that it’s unable to pass laws that only cover one issue?

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        The question is. If you got to choose between the two. Which would you choose. Democrats are awful, but imagine how nice it would have been for nothing to happen. Ukraine and Palestine not become worse. Our allies not alienated. Roving squads of redcaps not on the street kidnapping innocent people, AND THEN FORCING THE PUBLIC TO PAY FOR THEIR BONDAGE IN A FORIEGN NATION. DENIED JUSTICE. Nothing, man; what a dream.

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          I have always thought that when a professional does his job properly, you don’t even realize he’s there.

          He’s doing what NEEDS to be done.

          I have 138 “pet” names for Donald. None of them are flattering.

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          To defend the democrats, it’s pretty hard to get anything done when the right wing will basically say “no” to whatever the dems put their name on. Half of a dems job is fixing the shit that got broke when the republicans were in office.

          True, they could push a lot harder to the left. But let’s be realistic, if they did they would lose at the polls because the US is like 75% center or right.

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            I keep seeing so many people who claim to be on the left saying Democrats could win if they just supported us. Which sounds great. But then one has to wonder. Have we shown them that? We need to be the ones to bring the fight to the democrats. We’ve passively and complacently let National parties consolidate power for Generations now. And yet we pretend to be confused of when they don’t represent us for some reason.

            As someone reasonably autistic that has to mask a significant amount to get through the day. I’m not candidate material. But I would I.T. the fuck out of shit for a local campaign willing to show local and National Democrats how to fight.

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              Very true. What irks me most about voters and politicians is the voters only complain about them during an election. We need constant pressure on them. Make them answer real questions.

              Have you watched one of the presidential debate videos? The person asking questions is like, “what color is the sky?” And both parties start talking about taxes. We need some to say, “answer the fucking question,” and we need voters to refuse the candidates who cannot.

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              People were very outspoken about the whole supporting genocide thing. The party made sure to shut them out. People were also very outspoken about Biden being too senile to run again and the party instead gaslighted everyone with claiming that pointing out the most evident and obvious truth would in fact be a malicious scheme to help Trump. Only when it became impossible to lie about it for them, they quickly switched Harris in.

              And when people pointed at the party loosing to Trump again, they came up with all sorts of reasonings including hating on the minorities that felt betrayed by the party for not being blindly loyal to them.

              And now we are seeing them still supporting Trump in various ways and fighting teeth and nails to keep any progressives out of power in the party.

              As long as you say you are willing to vote for them, they will not listen. They take your vote for granted and they rather help to turn the US into full fascism than listen to normal folks who don’t want their life to become worse and worse every year to make some billionaires richer.

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              Check out Rebellion PAC if you want to help bring democrats around to sensible policy and making sure it gets passed.

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            More like 50% can’t be bothered because they “aren’t political”

            23% are GOP single issue voters who with vote their party till the day they die for that one thing (guns, god, babies, etc.)

            27% have some assortment of center to left values and with flake easier than Tesla paint if any one of them is not met

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              I don’t think it’s about god and guns and babies anymore. I seriously think they know it’s the party of pain and they like to watch pain inflicted on others. Trump is not about god, gun, or babies. He’s just about doing whatever he wants. I think that arouses his voters.

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      US gonna have to find a way to make these people accountable if they ever want to get out of this shit. But I’m afraid it’s already to late,the fascist state will protect those who bend to the dictator.

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    When do we start acknowledging the GOP are Nazis and the Dems are controlled opposition?

    Asking for the disabled and elderly.

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    Glad I made enough popcorn to watch the downfall of murica

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    PLEASE reach out to minorities for future elections. Evidence like this shows how racist the GOP is; they have to stop voting against their own interests…

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      Sorry, but my minority neighbor who voted for trump isn’t just going to succumb to logic.

      If logic was involved in the first place, we wouldn’t be here.

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        You don’t know that. It’s easy to say “we can’t reach these people” and for the most hardcore MAGA freaks, that’s true. But most people are capable of paying attention and learning from their mistakes. This shitshow is already producing a lot of Trupgret. Just look at GOP folks at town halls and prominent Republicans that would have never dared to criticize him before. It sucks but we have to keep trying to reach them…