The strategy was to wield identity politics as a weapon by making these false claims, eg, “It’s her turn”

That’s a really low gold bar, but I guess we have to start somewhere.

Biden has circumvented his own Congress on numerous occasions throughout the past year to enable the Israeli genocide of Palestinians to the maximum degree possible - to the detriment of American citizens presently going without food, shelter or healthcare. Biden pushed for us to engage in the forever war in Afghanistan and Iraq and helped to ensure we stayed entrenched there for decades. Biden is an absolute war monger who will stop at nothing to further enrich American military contractors and arms dealers - he’s made his whole career about it. This move should not be considered shocking by anyone with half a clue.

+1 to that!

Nah, I don’t see it playing out that way at all. A genuine populist revolution will easily be able to pull working class voters from all walks of life. In fact, I strongly believe that a true leftist movement in America would force the merger of the neocons and neolibs for their very survival.

For democrats, the problem is that the establishment leverages the DNC delegates to ensure no true populist ever sees the light of day. Plus the usual media smear jobs, etc. Regarding those elitist dems who are in charge and keep forcing these corrupt centrists down our throats, giving us only 5-10% of what’s promised each election at best…they can do whatever they want, which will likely be turning conservative to try for lowering their taxes. We don’t need them, and personally, I don’t want them either.

I agree - too many people mistakenly believe the Dems can be reformed into an actual leftist party. This just isn’t going to happen. They’re corrupt to the core - a center-right fundraising organization eager to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and they would rather the country burn than do anything against the wishes of their wealthy donors.

Yay for their glorious, free trusted ssl certs. Love this project!

This part is actually kind of wild. For a people who idolize “strong men” to such a degree, the amount of crying they do is absurd.

Precisely! The DNC is a fundraising organization, full stop. Been that way since the 80s.

Monied interests wield their donor privilege to ensure these lessons are never learned nor discussed in media. This influence is so powerful, Harris campaign wasn’t even allowed to lie and pretend to be populist like Trump had been doing, in order to attempt to win the election. The donors must be appeased above all else.

Personally, I think the Democrats are doomed to ratchet further into the grip of conservatism in perpetuity. But if you really want to reform the Dems instead, it has to start with significant campaign finance reform to end the legalized bribery.

Imagine being so bad at politics, that you lose to Trump 3 times in a row.

Been coding Java for about 15 years now. Pretty much agree - anon’s primary mistake was using javaFX. From a junior dev perspective I can see why they’d do that, but Java isn’t really meant for building desktop applications, it’s meant to power web apps.

What they should have done instead is create a backend restful web service and wire up a frontend rest client with something suited to web app ui dev such as angular or react. Java has some awesome frameworks built for it over the years, something like spring boot would make building that backend service trivial if you know how to use it. JAX-RS/Jersey or even servlets could be utilized for this instead, if you wanted to.

Spring boot has some nice tooling for thread management, but Java also has pretty good options for this built in as well. As chunky mentioned, if you aren’t already versed in concurrency patterns, don’t try to perform concurrent operations or you’re gonna have a bad time. But do learn how to do this, because exploiting concurrency is one of the golden rules of good computing.

Got the discount because of massive leverage over Trump - unless he won the election, he was eventually going to face serious criminal charges. Now he stands a good chance of getting off entirely scott free.

The main error of the left is to not own medias like conservatives do to aggressively push their views.

You’re right in that Dems are terrible on messaging. They really suck at it. But, Dems are center right. To call them “left” is just a fallacy these days, just look at their policy proposals if you can get past the identity politics bs to find them. I don’t agree that corporate news media is the answer. Look at what happened with CNN for example…corporations can be bought and quickly transformed to suit the new owners.

The working class does not care about the working class.

This is the exact kind of elitist bile Dems spew which turns off voters. Of course the working class cares deeply about their social and economic well being. Unfortunately, nobody in power does. Why should they, after all? Nobody they interact with on a daily basis suffers the plight of the working class citizenry. Still, paid family leave, universal federal background checks, child tax credit, Medicare for all - these are all insanely popular policies which poll at 60-90%+ approval ratings. Why do the Dems refuse to run on these issues? Because their donors pay them not to.

This is 100% what will happen, so of course the Dems will try to do it. Fools.

A lot of us have been quite vocal about that failing for over a year now. Say what you like but if you’re implying Trump was the only one upset about that you’re dead wrong.

I don’t think you fully grasp the dynamics, but from an outside perspective I’m sure it’s difficult to truly appreciate.

The DNC must be held responsible, because the establishment politicians completely control the narrative. And, except for the ridiculously stacked Covid election in 2020, they have lost 3 times in a row. If dem leadership is never held accountable for their mistakes leading to election losses, then they will never be able to right the ship and gain any real power or momentum. They are not owed our votes - they must effectively campaign to win them. That’s politics.

Unfortunately, as Nancy Pelosi is so fond of saying, Dems prefer to “lean to the green.” They chase corporate donations above all else, and garner voter apathy and disdain as a result. America has nobody (save Bernie Sanders) who fights for the working class now. Unfortunately, Trump at least has the political wherewithal to pretend to be a populist, and says things that trick people into voting for him. The Dems can’t even do that. Trump lost votes compared to last time because he’s a criminal fascist buffoon, to the tune of over 2 million votes. Harris lost many more, over 10 million compared to 2020, because she abandoned the working class and refused to even do so much as call Israelis genocidal. Hell, she was a straight up war hawk in her dem convention speech - dems are supposed to be the anti war party!

So yeah, it’s wrong to blame the voters, the fault lies squarely with Dem leadership if for anything else because they have all the power. Dem voters are sick of getting screwed for over 40 years now, and many repug voters simply want to burn it all down. This is the end result of total corporate capture of government and late stage capitalism, massive problems which far transcend individual voters who may or may not be faced with apathy over a brutal system which consistently fails them.

I think those leftists who abstained from voting know how this happened, and I’ll give them credit for having principles in a time where principle is severely lacking. Either way, you’re wrong to blame them - Kamala could have won every last one of those votes if she denounced the genocide perpetrated by Israel and announced plans for an arms embargo as soon as she took office, but that was too much to ask for a politician thoroughly corrupted by AIPAC money. The blame squarely lies with DNC leadership for losing yet another election in spectacular fashion.

Definitely won’t be televised.

Yeah it’s hard to vote in an informed manner with so many obstacles to education. I suspect this problem is about to get a whole lot worse unfortunately.