Hello comrades. In the interest of upholding our code of conduct - specifically, rule 1 (providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all) - we felt it appropriate to make a statement regarding the lionization of Luigi Mangione, the alleged United Healthcare CEO shooter, also known as “The Adjuster.”
In the day or so since the alleged shooter’s identity became known to the public, the whole world has had the chance to dig though his personal social media accounts and attempt to decipher his political ideology and motives. What we have learned may shock you. He is not one of us. He is a “typical” American with largely incoherent, and in many cases reactionary politics. For the most part, what is remarkable about the man himself is that he chose to take out his anger on a genuine enemy of the proletariat, instead of an elementary school.
This is a situation where the art must be separated from the artist. We do not condemn the attack, but as a role model, Luigi Mangione falls short. We do not expect perfection from revolutionary figures either, but we expect a modicum of revolutionary discipline. We expect them not simply to identify an unpopular element of society , but to clearly illuminate the causes of oppression and the means by which they are overcome. When we canonize revolutionary figures, we are holding them up as an example to be followed.
This is where things come back to rule 1. Mangione has a long social media history bearing a spectrum of reactionary viewpoints, and interacting positively with many powerful reactionary figures. While some commenters have referred to this as “nothing malicious,” by lionizing this man we effectively deem this behavior acceptable, or at the very least, safe to ignore. This is the type of tailism which opens the door to making a space unsafe for marginalized people.
We’re going to be more strict on moderating posts which do little more than lionize the shooter. There is plenty to be said about the unfolding events, the remarkably positive public reaction, how public reactions to “propaganda of the deed” may have changed since the historical epoch of its conception (and how the strategic hazards might not have), and many other aspects of the news without canonizing this man specifically. We can still dance on the graves of our enemies and celebrate their rediscovered fear and vulnerability without the vulgar revisionism needed to pretend this man is some sort of example of Marxist or Anarchist practice.
that is, if he’s the adjuster
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based principled leftist
based principled leftist
when are we just gonna make a struggle session mega. if we can have a news mega, we can have a struggle session mega imo
Fuck you fed ass admins
How many figures that are praised here have problematic views? how many of those have those have a pinned post about their lionisation??
Luigi Mangione is a Hero, Unequivocally
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Do you guys have any serious plan to do anything ever?
Kinda unrelated, but the kind of person who cries about their post being removed for lionizing a problematic guy with paragraphs of justifation for why it being removed was an affront to all true leftists everywhere and how this site is literally 1984, are the same kind of people who seem to think their opinions are the most valid of opinions and people NEED TO see them, and the real injustice is the censoring of their enlightened takes.
Some of y’all need to separate the ego from your posting.
Did you guys check if had good politics before you officially lionized him on Hexbear? Or are you just navel gazing because Luigi is American?
Good take overall. A lot of people (myself included) wanted this guy to be some sort of leftist hero. Even though it sucks to find out he was just an average american dude with kinda shitty beliefs, we should accept reality as it is and not try to pretend otherwise. We can think of it as a small victory that even someone who’s seemingly not very class conscious could be driven to an action like this. That, along with the amount of support this got, still makes me feel much more hopeful about building a left-wing movement in the west than I was a couple weeks ago.
For the most part, what is remarkable about the man himself is that he chose to take out his anger on a genuine enemy of the proletariat, instead of an elementary school.
This part I find maybe a bit tasteless. Even though I agree we shouldn’t glorify the guy, I do think he deserves some sympathy for what he did and the undoubtedly awful punishment he’s going to be sentenced to, and I don’t think it’s fair to compare him to a school shooter. I don’t think anything indicates that he’s the kind of person capable of something like that.
The fact that if the guy had been a leftist this whole debate would vanish is all one needs to know if this is actually a debate worth BANNING PEOPLE OVER, shove the hammer up your asses you’re actively making the site worse far more than whatever lionizing is happening
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Death to America