• PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    8 days ago

    Brian Thompson killed a whole bunch of people. That’s, to me, the more salient comparison to make.

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    Penny was attempting to subdue a whackadoo threatening everyone and menacing the train, and the death wasn’t intentional, let alone premeditated; but you ignore what you need to be okay with your para-social attachments.

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      Choking someone to death for a full minute after they’ve gone limp isn’t as clear cut a situation as you’re making it sound and not an appropriate response to a mental health crisis.

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        You familiar with how long it takes for the adrenaline of fight or flight to wear off. He probably had no concept of a minute… and since his body was still ampped up probably didn’t even realize the guy was limp. But focus on him anyway. That is what the people in power want. They don’t want you to look deeper and see how they failed the man who had the mental health issue. He shouldn’t have been there. He should have been receiving the care he needed in a safe environment. But shareholders have to see profits.

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        When that mental health crisis threatens the lives of others and the cops are too lazy to do their jobs of course there will be a reaction like this.

        Its shouldnt be controversial to defend your neighbors.

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      Agreed! Killing a Whackadoo who Threatens people is MUCH MORE Forgiving then Killing a Whackadoo who KILLS Millions of Americans including Children!

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          And he didn’t kill them himself. He’s more of a Charles Manson figure or a mob boss.

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          Not just for profit, that would be ugly greed.

          You got to do it for the shareholders profit, then you’re the capitalist hero.

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          that makes it ok in the USA.

          It sucks living in the only capitalist economy anywhere on the globe which america definitely is because no other country in history has ever empowered oligarchs except us 😩

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            True, but burgerlanders seem to be the most bootlicky about it, and they certainly affect the world outside their own borders the most with it.

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      Yeah, these are wildly different situations, and trying to draw comparisons between the two is disingenuous, at best. I’m not happy with the Penny situation, either, and there is plenty to criticize about that case, but the similarities to Mangione’s case end at “one man killed another man in a public space”.

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      I agree, it’s jumping to conclusions. One case has just been adjudicated, the other has barely even begun. That’s like comparing someone’s brownies from before they went in the oven to someone else’s from after they came out.

      “Nah bro, this sh*t’s gooey AF. Doesn’t even seem edible. 0/10”

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    Just want to point out the irony that the same people saying that Jordan Neely was not a threat are quite often in the same camp of people saying that it’s fair game to shoot men that say, “you body, my choice” because that’s a credible threat of sexual violence.