Yeah, that’s definitely a thing to be considered. And apparently Hololive was started with venture capital so going public was bound to happen sooner or later.
I’m not knowledgeable enough about the stock market to say if this is feasible or not, but considering this fandom seems to have many people with A LOT of disposable income, is it not possible for them to pool up money and “make it go private again”?
That’s a lot of organizing to try and make a company private again. And there’s no guarantee that the fan run org that would buy Holo would even be able to effectively run it. Unless the fans were completely hands off and put the talents in charge of all decisions, it would likely go to shit in a different direction. One of the reasons people join agencies is because they don’t know how to manage the business side of things. I’m gonna mention Pippa again, but she’s grateful to Phase for managing that stuff. She wouldn’t be able to coordinate her mech deals or organize 3D concerts. Nana Asteria has also said that she misses being part of a company for similar reasons.
Well, even now it’s not 100% public, afaik around 40/50% is still owned by Yagoo. Fans would “just” need to buy the rest and say “listen Yagoo, we don’t really care that much about profit, just run the company like you used to and we’re good”.
Though of course, that’s still a lot of organizing and having a bunch of people commit to handling things the same way is definitely not an easy task.
I’m adjacent to enough backroom con drama. Some “fan” will try to become the king of the hill. Honestly, if Hololive nose dives, the talents have plenty of examples to follow on restarting their careers as indies or corpos. I think that’s going to be the real legacy of Coco. Before her, no one knew if the fans would follow.
Some “fan” will try to become the king of the hill.
Yeah, I can see that happening unfortunately. My cynical mind says they would probably do better than the average shareholder, but I wouldn’t put my money on it.
Honestly, if Hololive nose dives, the talents have plenty of examples to follow on restarting their careers as indies or corpos. I think that’s going to be the real legacy of Coco. Before her, no one knew if the fans would follow.
We had a small taste with Delutaya but yeah, Kson really paved the way with that. Looking at the bright side though, the fact that 3+ years later so many old talents still choose to stay in holo shows they can’t be doing that badly, at least on the JP side. We’ll see if Doki proving how well that can go on the EN side will cause an uptick in Holo graduations like it happened with Niji, hopefully not because that would be a very red flag about the EN management.
Holo and Niji are still very different beasts. Everyone leaving Holo are still doing it on professional terms. No one’s reported abuse, favoritism, or pay being withheld. No one’s ended up in a hospital. No talents have dogpiled on anyone leaving. We also had two graduation notices within two days, so there’s no enforced queue, although I wouldn’t be surprised if the talents are choosing to soften the blow by spacing things out voluntarily.
No one’s reported abuse, favoritism, or pay being withheld. No one’s ended up in a hospital. No talents have dogpiled on anyone leaving.
Well, iirc that was the situation for Niji as well up to Zaion’s termination… and then in less than a year everything came crumbling down, revealing things were going terribly even before then.
Now I wholeheartedly hope that’s not the case in Holo, but we can never know for sure. Though yeah, before any of that gets public it’s no use being paranoid. Let’s just see what the future brings.
Yeah, that’s definitely a thing to be considered. And apparently Hololive was started with venture capital so going public was bound to happen sooner or later.
I’m not knowledgeable enough about the stock market to say if this is feasible or not, but considering this fandom seems to have many people with A LOT of disposable income, is it not possible for them to pool up money and “make it go private again”?
That’s a lot of organizing to try and make a company private again. And there’s no guarantee that the fan run org that would buy Holo would even be able to effectively run it. Unless the fans were completely hands off and put the talents in charge of all decisions, it would likely go to shit in a different direction. One of the reasons people join agencies is because they don’t know how to manage the business side of things. I’m gonna mention Pippa again, but she’s grateful to Phase for managing that stuff. She wouldn’t be able to coordinate her mech deals or organize 3D concerts. Nana Asteria has also said that she misses being part of a company for similar reasons.
Well, even now it’s not 100% public, afaik around 40/50% is still owned by Yagoo. Fans would “just” need to buy the rest and say “listen Yagoo, we don’t really care that much about profit, just run the company like you used to and we’re good”.
Though of course, that’s still a lot of organizing and having a bunch of people commit to handling things the same way is definitely not an easy task.
I’m adjacent to enough backroom con drama. Some “fan” will try to become the king of the hill. Honestly, if Hololive nose dives, the talents have plenty of examples to follow on restarting their careers as indies or corpos. I think that’s going to be the real legacy of Coco. Before her, no one knew if the fans would follow.
Yeah, I can see that happening unfortunately. My cynical mind says they would probably do better than the average shareholder, but I wouldn’t put my money on it.
We had a small taste with Delutaya but yeah, Kson really paved the way with that. Looking at the bright side though, the fact that 3+ years later so many old talents still choose to stay in holo shows they can’t be doing that badly, at least on the JP side. We’ll see if Doki proving how well that can go on the EN side will cause an uptick in Holo graduations like it happened with Niji, hopefully not because that would be a very red flag about the EN management.
Holo and Niji are still very different beasts. Everyone leaving Holo are still doing it on professional terms. No one’s reported abuse, favoritism, or pay being withheld. No one’s ended up in a hospital. No talents have dogpiled on anyone leaving. We also had two graduation notices within two days, so there’s no enforced queue, although I wouldn’t be surprised if the talents are choosing to soften the blow by spacing things out voluntarily.
Well, iirc that was the situation for Niji as well up to Zaion’s termination… and then in less than a year everything came crumbling down, revealing things were going terribly even before then.
Now I wholeheartedly hope that’s not the case in Holo, but we can never know for sure. Though yeah, before any of that gets public it’s no use being paranoid. Let’s just see what the future brings.