Summary

Senator Mike Rounds (R-SD) introduced the Returning Education to Our States Act, aiming to abolish the U.S. Department of Education, a long-time Republican goal aligned with Trump’s agenda.

The bill proposes redistributing the department’s $200 billion budget and responsibilities to other federal agencies and states, such as shifting federal student loans to the Treasury.

Critics warn this could undermine protections for students with disabilities and marginalized groups.

While the bill faces significant political hurdles, it reflects broader GOP efforts to reduce federal influence over education policy.

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    FUCK ALL THE WAY OFF, SOUTH DAKOTA.

    You’re a deadbeat state.

    The federal share of South Dakota’s state budget has been above 40% since 2021, when it spiked to 56%.

    The federal government provides aid to states and local governments in the form of grants for programs like education, transportation, and Medicaid.

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      If the feds ever pays more than half of a states budget that state should immediately have all standing politicians removed and replaced with a temp government while the Fed undoes whatever garbage policies caused that

      In the meantime that state and it’s citizens don’t get representation, they didn’t fucking pay the membership dues to the union

      No taxation without representation works the other way

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      Ignorance is Bliss!

      “Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise.” Thomas Gray [TIL]

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      At first I thought, “ok they’ve got their mind made up no matter what, nothing can convince them” Then I realized it meant they were enjoying marginalized students being at a bigger disadvantage. Clever panel.

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    Ok yes I’m concerned about marginalized and disabled students, but I’m mostly concerned about Americans being too damn dumb already

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      10 mins later: Mississippi is introducing a mandated co-op middle and high school. Where students only need to be in class 2 days a week and get hands on experience in desirable fields such as farming/agriculture. You just have to work 2 days a week to make sure you get your credits to get to the next grade!

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        Don’t read up on “no child left behind” then, it’s been a huge reason a ton of kids are basically illiterate. Our dept of education doesn’t need to be abolished, it needs to be properly funded, so more schools can be built and teachers can be paid more with smaller class sizes.

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          It’s not funding, we give more money per student than any other country in the world. We just suck at it and nobody gives a fuck except the teachers - no admins, no students, and no parents.

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            While this is true, the funding is heavily disproportionately handed out…and yea misused. You can see it in schools for the richer neighborhoods and then the poor ones as well.

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            Uhh no, I talk with teachers, two of which are family members. The fuck? Just because someone is against a bullshit law doesn’t make them a repub who watches faux news…the hell.

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              Criticism of nclb is usually the incentive to teach to the test and on punishing schools that need help. Kids may get shortchanged on learning how to think, and on all the material not on the test. However reading is on the test. It’s an attempt to establish standards for reading and to raise them

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                The issue with the tests is that the funding is tied to the testing. So poorer schools either flub the tests with the kids and not teach them anything or lose funding.

                Standardized testing is the dumbest thing on the planet, and it’s even stupider tying it to funding.

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        Well TBH there needs to be more classes on basic skills… I mean knowing about history is nice, but I would have appreciated more classes on wood working, plumbing, tax preparation, and basic vehicle maintenance.

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          Then figure out what you want and go to a trade school. Where do you live (state). Even Tennessee will pay for that if you live there. Trade schools were promoted by Obama when he tried to figure out free education. Yet the majority of voters faught it. That isn’t the majority of people, it just means people like you, who want trade school made as an investment for the future was chopped short. But it doesn’t mean it’s over. Talk to your city, , county, state they may have people you can call for assistance. Often times, it’s either the Catholic Church or government. Either doesn’t matter. The Catholics won’t require you to attend church or pledge some shit, they just want to know you fit their wage requirements to help as many people as possible.

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            Learning basic plumbing shouldn’t require that you become a plumber. Learning basic finances shouldn’t require that you become an economist.

            Simple life skills should be the norm in art least high school, but we don’t give a fuck about children in this country.

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      Duh. That’s because :

      “The federal Department of Education has never educated a single student, and it’s long past time to end this bureaucratic department that causes more harm than good,” Rounds said

      /s

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        They re-elected the guy who gave the department of education to a member of the Amway (prolific pyramid scheme) family, so honestly I’m not going to say no, but the rich have clearly started tossing industrial excavation tools into the hole we find ourselves in.

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    Any bets on how far US will fall in global rankings? I am guessing maybe two or three places in the next five years

    https://www.cee.org/newsevents/press-releases/index-excellence-stem-education-compares-us-students-global-competition

    Why do some people think that smart immigrants would want to come to the US if the general population is hard to deal with? What part of quality of life do they not understand?

    Okay, let’s take some prosaic examples.

    — H1-B visa man goes to a restaurant. Restaurant staff are racists, QOL degrades, H1-B visa man rethinks staying long term in the U.S.

    — H1-B visa man enrolls children in private school. Private school staff is religious fundies, and education at a public level would be cheaper and better in another country. QOL degrades, H1-B visa man decides to move from the U.S.

    For most skilled immigrants the calculus is based around money and what they get out of it, you shouldn’t expect there’s any intrinsic worth to staying in the U.S. if standards are shit and qualify of life degrades.

    So in simple terms, you’ll have dumber people on average in house and smarter people on average in other countries.

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      Hell, who is going to want to come study in the US on a visa if we have mass deportations going on? It’s a pretty safe bet that many of those visa holders will get stopped and challenged multiple times by roaming gangs of thugs looking for illegal immigrants to haul away. And it’s also a pretty safe bet that some of them will simply claim the visas are fake or otherwise invalid and make those students lives miserable as they try to sort things out.

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    well, duh. it’s the natural progression of the gops war on education theyve been waging since the 60s. turns out it’s way easier to get people to vote for you if you master propaganda and refuse to teach people critical thought.

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      They done great job too. Not only does my mega family now believe that moon landing was faked, but that the earth is flat. Seriously they are getting dumber by the second. All based on where they get their information.

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      I know it has an potential to cause great harm, but maybe we should get back to intelligence (or even basic reality) tests, and then weight votes proportional to the score.

      Just some agree/disagree statements…

      The earth is shaped more like a sphere than a disc.

      The human beings have never landed on the moon.

      The 2020 general election was fair, and without meaningful fraud.

      The efficacy of vaccines are well documented, going back over 100 years.

      I’m sure we can come up with a lot.

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        America has a long history of trying to figure out how to make the votes of certain groups fractional of “true” Americans, the whole 3/5ths compromise and all that.

        I don’t think we should be trying to introduce modern day versions of that. I’d much rather see voting day be made a federal holiday, and voting become mandatory.

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          Agreed, but a country half populated by idiot conspiracy nuts and neonazis with disporpotionately large representation is shaping up to be a bad idea.

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            I agree, but it’s up to those in charge to deem who are the conspiracy nuts and neonazis, right? And that quickly becomes a slippery slope.

            The solution isn’t taking votes away, it’s getting more people to vote.

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    Taliban has made their country shittier than republicans have made america and god dammit they’re not losing that battle anymore.

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    So he probably “thinks”: “school did not work for me, why waste money on other having a chance?”

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      I don’t know the guy in question, but the more likely conservative mindset is “why bother educating the unwashed masses? It’s a waste of resources when we could instead keep them ignorant, under our thumbs, and working in our factories for next to nothing. We’ll just make sure that education is available for people who can pay for it (us).”

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    Trump (and Republicans) love the poorly educated. This is all part of their plan to keep people stupid so they’re easily manipulated, thus keeping the GOP in power.

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    This is the chance for one underpaid government tech worker to delete the wrong folder in the transfer and erase the debt

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      It makes for a good movie plot, but there are likely backups, etc. that could be recovered fairly easily.

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    Pros/Cons:

    -No more student loans

    -No more endless IEP reports

    -No more standardized education criteria

    Thoughts?

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      IEP is necessary for kids with special needs.

      It provides clear and protected guidelines which allow a kid with physical disabilities like being born missing 8 fingers to be allowed something like a tablet to write out essays through dictation rather than be forced to try keep up with children without such challenges in writing said essays with pen and paper when their ability to come up with an answer has nothing to do with their ability to wiggle a writing instrument upon the surface of card stock.

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      IEP ensure that all children receive a free and appropriate public education in the least restricted way possible. Unless you want kids with special needs just shoved in a special education classroom until their 18, they are absolutely necessary.

      As a parent of a child with special needs, all of this scares the crap out of me. The second the department of education is gone so will the enforcement of the IDEA act. And that is the only thing keeping states like the one I live in from providing these services. It is already hard enough to get schools to do what they are supposed to. I’ve had to threaten a lawsuit against ours, and it’s one of the better school districts.

      The second they don’t have to provide for these kids they will shove them in the deepest darkest hole and leave them there until they age out.