• lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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    18 hours ago

    It’s not even close to the same. Abortion laws shouldn’t exist in the first place. The decision should be left up to the woman alone. All this law is doing is making providers worry about the consequences of performing one. A law against theft deters theft… There is a purpose to that.

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        9 hours ago

        It’s not a baby. It’s a blob. It has no sentience and the mother doesn’t want it in her body. It’s basically a parasite.

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          A fetus/baby is a human being. It is an organism composed of human cells, and the mother’s body is made to accommodate it. The only difference between an adult and a fetus is the stage of development. If a fetus is a “blob,” so are born babies, children, and adults.

          A parasite is a different species which the host’s body isn’t meant to accommodate. Calling a fetus a parasite is insane.

          Oh, and tumors aren’t organisms, so fetuses don’t fit that definition either.

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            5 hours ago

            If a fetus is a “blob,” so are born babies, children, and adults.

            No, those are fully formed individuals that can survive on their own if separated from the mother. The fetus is surviving off it’s mother’s body. Stealing her nutrients. The only thing separating it from fitting the definition of a parasite is the “different species” caveat.

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              What’s the difference between a “blob” and a “fully formed individual” and why is killing one acceptable while killing the other isn’t? You also missed the “mother’s body is made to accommodate the child” thing, too. That’s what the uterus is for. If there was no such thing as a uterus and the fetus was a different species, then it would be a parasite. As it is though, a fetus is no more a parasite than someone living at home with their parents.

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                What’s the difference between a “blob” and a “fully formed individual” and why is killing one acceptable while killing the other isn’t?

                The fully formed individual has sentience and can live more or less on it’s own. An infant can be passed off to someone else to care for. The blob can only survive by leeching resources from it’s mother’s body. If she doesn’t want to participate in that it’s her decision. Similar to how if someone living with their parents outlasts their welcome they can be evicted.

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                  Do people revert to being blobs when they go to sleep, become comatose, disabled, or otherwise under the care of another person? The fetus/baby is guaranteed to leave the mother at some point, and evicting it prematurely without a very good reason or regard for its safety would end its life. That is murder. Your argument would justify cutting people off from disability benefits.

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                    34 minutes ago

                    That’s not the same thing. Anyone can care for a disabled person. They don’t invade a specific individuals body who then has to deal with them for 9 months. People should have autonomy of their own body over non-sentient blobs that have formed inside them without their consent.

                    The fetus/baby is guaranteed to leave the mother at some point, and evicting it prematurely without a very good reason or regard for its safety would end its life.

                    Not murder. It’s a blob until it can survive being removed.

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                7 hours ago

                Except for the laws that punish people who seek medical aid. As exemplified by the post. Also flase equivalency.

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                  7 hours ago

                  Literally nobody has been prosecuted for doing an abortion in a ban state since Dobbs. The threat you’re asserting doesn’t exist.

                  It’s not a false equivalence because, in both cases, the parent is killing their child.

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                    6 hours ago

                    It doesn’t exist except it’s on the law books. OK.

                    It is an entirely false equivalence. Because a fetus isn’t a child until further in development.