• the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    What’s the difference between a “blob” and a “fully formed individual” and why is killing one acceptable while killing the other isn’t? You also missed the “mother’s body is made to accommodate the child” thing, too. That’s what the uterus is for. If there was no such thing as a uterus and the fetus was a different species, then it would be a parasite. As it is though, a fetus is no more a parasite than someone living at home with their parents.

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      3 hours ago

      What’s the difference between a “blob” and a “fully formed individual” and why is killing one acceptable while killing the other isn’t?

      The fully formed individual has sentience and can live more or less on it’s own. An infant can be passed off to someone else to care for. The blob can only survive by leeching resources from it’s mother’s body. If she doesn’t want to participate in that it’s her decision. Similar to how if someone living with their parents outlasts their welcome they can be evicted.

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        3 hours ago

        Do people revert to being blobs when they go to sleep, become comatose, disabled, or otherwise under the care of another person? The fetus/baby is guaranteed to leave the mother at some point, and evicting it prematurely without a very good reason or regard for its safety would end its life. That is murder. Your argument would justify cutting people off from disability benefits.

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          20 minutes ago

          That’s not the same thing. Anyone can care for a disabled person. They don’t invade a specific individuals body who then has to deal with them for 9 months. People should have autonomy of their own body over non-sentient blobs that have formed inside them without their consent.

          The fetus/baby is guaranteed to leave the mother at some point, and evicting it prematurely without a very good reason or regard for its safety would end its life.

          Not murder. It’s a blob until it can survive being removed.

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            2 minutes ago

            Your criteria for non-blobness was that the human being has sentience and it can live more or less on its own. A disabled person who can no longer care for themselves, or someone who may not fit your definition of sentience due to a mental impairment or simply not being old enough, would revert to blob status and be eligible for death because they do not fulfill both of these criteria.

            The fetus did not “invade” the mother’s body because it didn’t choose to be there. It belongs in the mother’s body because the uterus exists. Even if it was there without consent, that wouldn’t justify killing it because that would be giving the child the death penalty for its father’s crimes. Your statement “anyone can care for a disabled person” highlights the issue at hand: only the mother can take care of the fetus until it is born. That makes it even more crucial to protect the fetus, because there is no other option for keeping it alive.