Dearborn is home to one of the largest concentrations of Arab Americans and has traditionally been a Democratic stronghold. But this year that all changed.
You chose this. You knew exactly what was at stake, you knew who Trump was beyond any shadow of a doubt, you knew he was going to fully enable Isreal to wipe your family off the face of the earth. You knew.
I fought all the bad faith arguments flying around here and beyond. All the “never genocide” bullshit. Every day, for the better part of a year.
But you played stupid fucking games. And now we all have to find out.
It sucks because people will suffer. Likely people I care about too. But this bleeding heart “liberal” has been bled dry. I can’t muster any more fucks.
Yeah, fuck the brown people getting fucked by both parties. The US is a white supreme country and if they don’t adhere to the “liberal” white supremacy it is only right they suffer the “conservative” white supremacy.
Even if all Arabs, Blacks and Latinos had voted Dems, the decline into fascism of the US is inevitable. You are just riling up blame and hatred towards minorities because they didn’t do what you want. How is fascism supposed to be prevented, when it is that deeply ingrained in the white majority?
Also what an narcissistic position to feel that you are entitled to dispense “sympathy”.
You tried to chastise voters to see things your way, and now you’re surprised that it didn’t work. Sure, you were absolutely right, but the way you and others made your case made your efforts less than useless. The way you feel about those voters is exactly how I feel about you right now, because I was ignored by you and your fellow ranters for months while you berated voters into hardening their stance against you and Harris.
Liberals love to talk about how much their hearts bleed. But it was also liberals talking about how disruptive and criminal people protesting in black bloc were being last time Trump was in power. It was also liberals who were saying students protesting peacefully on campuses needed to be beaten and thrown in prison.
You lot don’t give a shit about anyone but yourselves. You use minorities as tokens and ways to sell merch. The downside to that is that when the republicans are doing pogroms these next four years, they’re gonna be going after the people who aren’t armed. And while leftists will always have the backs of our queer and trans brothers and sisters, democrats can figure out defense and mutual support on your own. Because we remember who was really there for us last time, and it wasn’t you. It will never be you.
I’m with you bud. I honestly tried. Lesser of two evils, help everyone, people deserve safety nets. Well the people I was fighting to help overwhelmingly voted against all of those. I honestly feel for anyone who voted for the same things I did and lost, but anyone who didn’t vote or voted to remove those protections I’m done feeling bad for.
Sorry grandma, you voted in the man who openly wanted to get rid of Medicare. Don’t care anymore. You needed Obamacare but voted for the people who openly said they’d repeal it? Too bad, get some bootstraps.
Again, those who voted to protect those things I feel for and I still want to help, but I’m done trying to help those who openly push against me.
It’s curious that these people never targeted the Republican position on Gazza, even though it was clear from the polls that Trump had a good chance of winning.
Are you imaging a world where Kamala wasn’t full throatedly supporting the genocide as well? Kamala “Most lethal military”, “Israel has a right to defend itself”, “No arms embargo”, “I’m basically Joe Biden but I want Republicans in my cabinet” Harris?
No, but I understand the people not wanting to cosign the genocide and not voting or voting 3rd party. I can even forgive the low information voter that was hopeful toward Trump’s vague allusion toward stopping the wars (even though obviously this is incorrect).
Yeah, the “single issue” of genocide. And how do you think the safety of people develops, when genocide is normalized?
Do you think the Nazis started with death camps? These things are processes. And normalizing genocide abroad is a big step towards normalizing genocide at home. There is no safety for anyone, if genocide is normalized.
Yeah, you can fuck right off too. The news is already full of evidence that Trump is explicitly enabling Isreal to do wayyyy worse. Just like we all told you.
I’m done arguing in good faith with you asshats. Mods can remove my posts, ban me, whatever. Giving you clowns free reign to canvas lemmy with bad faith arguments just because they are borderline civilly worded is what helped disenfranchise the small slice of the internet lemmy represents.
you should have been done months ago. you know whats bad faith? telling people they friends and family must die because you suddenly might be in the same situation they’ve been in for the last year. your friends and families lives may now be on the line.
This is your lesson to learn. you don’t throw a group under the bus just for your own convenience.
Yep. I thought fighting the constant barrage of disenfranchisement was important during the election year (sigh). They were out in arms trying to disenfranchise as many progressive/leftists as they could. Fighting them was important to keep voters from throwing the bath out with the bathwater due to an imperfect reality.
Well, we lost. Now I can mute these pieces of shit who are gleefully watching the world burn and trolling with “it would have happened anyway under Harris!”.
This thread has tripled my block list already, and it’s going to be huge by the end of the month.
I vote we bring back “die in a fire” for the type of person you are responding to. Them fucking off hasn’t worked and doesn’t elicit a response that equals the damage their rhetoric has caused.
I’m just glad you guys are finally admitting you don’t give a shit about minorities. Maybe you’ll finally grow a backbone and get out there and protest. Or do LITERALLY FUCKING ANYTHING besides hand-wringing.
Let’s be honest though, you’re probably gonna just end up being the racist shitwaffles you usually are.
Sorry Kamala ran a dogshit campaign and failed. If you can’t extract any concessions from our representatives in a democracy, what the fuck is the point? Not doing genocide should be bare fucking minimum.
Well, liberalism is the moderate wing of fascism. Ya’ll are so fucking smarmy while being propagandized stooges for the status quo. At least the rank and file conservatives are so bat shit insane they’re at least funny usually. They also have the capacity to reckon with the fact that real material problems exist, even though their solutions are so misdirected.
The thing is you don’t know anybody’s political alignment. For all the talking you do, all you base this accusation on is a single comment and slap the label on anyone who disagrees like a monkey throwing feces. That’s my point, not whatever else bullshit you’re on about.
I can’t ever know what’s in people’s hearts and minds, but I see their output clear as day.
And to be fair, the above comment was referencing the quote “Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”. I was calling them a fascist for telling the anti genocide folks to fuck off because his blue team lost.
Eh. Fuck off. I really don’t care anymore.
You chose this. You knew exactly what was at stake, you knew who Trump was beyond any shadow of a doubt, you knew he was going to fully enable Isreal to wipe your family off the face of the earth. You knew.
I fought all the bad faith arguments flying around here and beyond. All the “never genocide” bullshit. Every day, for the better part of a year.
But you played stupid fucking games. And now we all have to find out.
It sucks because people will suffer. Likely people I care about too. But this bleeding heart “liberal” has been bled dry. I can’t muster any more fucks.
Well, there won’t be a Palestine in 2 years or so. Just more Israel. Problem solved /s
Yep. No more sympathy
Yeah, fuck the brown people getting fucked by both parties. The US is a white supreme country and if they don’t adhere to the “liberal” white supremacy it is only right they suffer the “conservative” white supremacy.
Even if all Arabs, Blacks and Latinos had voted Dems, the decline into fascism of the US is inevitable. You are just riling up blame and hatred towards minorities because they didn’t do what you want. How is fascism supposed to be prevented, when it is that deeply ingrained in the white majority?
Also what an narcissistic position to feel that you are entitled to dispense “sympathy”.
You tried to chastise voters to see things your way, and now you’re surprised that it didn’t work. Sure, you were absolutely right, but the way you and others made your case made your efforts less than useless. The way you feel about those voters is exactly how I feel about you right now, because I was ignored by you and your fellow ranters for months while you berated voters into hardening their stance against you and Harris.
Liberals love to talk about how much their hearts bleed. But it was also liberals talking about how disruptive and criminal people protesting in black bloc were being last time Trump was in power. It was also liberals who were saying students protesting peacefully on campuses needed to be beaten and thrown in prison.
You lot don’t give a shit about anyone but yourselves. You use minorities as tokens and ways to sell merch. The downside to that is that when the republicans are doing pogroms these next four years, they’re gonna be going after the people who aren’t armed. And while leftists will always have the backs of our queer and trans brothers and sisters, democrats can figure out defense and mutual support on your own. Because we remember who was really there for us last time, and it wasn’t you. It will never be you.
I’m with you bud. I honestly tried. Lesser of two evils, help everyone, people deserve safety nets. Well the people I was fighting to help overwhelmingly voted against all of those. I honestly feel for anyone who voted for the same things I did and lost, but anyone who didn’t vote or voted to remove those protections I’m done feeling bad for.
Sorry grandma, you voted in the man who openly wanted to get rid of Medicare. Don’t care anymore. You needed Obamacare but voted for the people who openly said they’d repeal it? Too bad, get some bootstraps.
Again, those who voted to protect those things I feel for and I still want to help, but I’m done trying to help those who openly push against me.
Grandma’s coming to live with you.
Ha ha. My grandma’s dead. So I’ve got that going for me.
It’s curious that these people never targeted the Republican position on Gazza, even though it was clear from the polls that Trump had a good chance of winning.
Isn’t it though?
“it’s not my lesson to learn” has been my consoling mantra.
Are you imaging a world where Kamala wasn’t full throatedly supporting the genocide as well? Kamala “Most lethal military”, “Israel has a right to defend itself”, “No arms embargo”, “I’m basically Joe Biden but I want Republicans in my cabinet” Harris?
And you suppose Trump will touch his heart and at the very least consider slamming on the breaks? Get real.
No, but I understand the people not wanting to cosign the genocide and not voting or voting 3rd party. I can even forgive the low information voter that was hopeful toward Trump’s vague allusion toward stopping the wars (even though obviously this is incorrect).
For lefties, y’all really underestimate what trump can do, if you think that single issue outweights your safety at home.
Yeah, the “single issue” of genocide. And how do you think the safety of people develops, when genocide is normalized?
Do you think the Nazis started with death camps? These things are processes. And normalizing genocide abroad is a big step towards normalizing genocide at home. There is no safety for anyone, if genocide is normalized.
Yeah, you can fuck right off too. The news is already full of evidence that Trump is explicitly enabling Isreal to do wayyyy worse. Just like we all told you.
I’m done arguing in good faith with you asshats. Mods can remove my posts, ban me, whatever. Giving you clowns free reign to canvas lemmy with bad faith arguments just because they are borderline civilly worded is what helped disenfranchise the small slice of the internet lemmy represents.
Fuck you and fuck off. I’m done.
you should have been done months ago. you know whats bad faith? telling people they friends and family must die because you suddenly might be in the same situation they’ve been in for the last year. your friends and families lives may now be on the line.
This is your lesson to learn. you don’t throw a group under the bus just for your own convenience.
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Yep. I thought fighting the constant barrage of disenfranchisement was important during the election year (sigh). They were out in arms trying to disenfranchise as many progressive/leftists as they could. Fighting them was important to keep voters from throwing the bath out with the bathwater due to an imperfect reality.
Well, we lost. Now I can mute these pieces of shit who are gleefully watching the world burn and trolling with “it would have happened anyway under Harris!”.
This thread has tripled my block list already, and it’s going to be huge by the end of the month.
There’s no utility in spending time replying to users who are posting in bad faith
It’s not about changing their minds, it’s about keeping them from influencing others. But yeah, that obviously wasn’t effective either.
I vote we bring back “die in a fire” for the type of person you are responding to. Them fucking off hasn’t worked and doesn’t elicit a response that equals the damage their rhetoric has caused.
I’m just glad you guys are finally admitting you don’t give a shit about minorities. Maybe you’ll finally grow a backbone and get out there and protest. Or do LITERALLY FUCKING ANYTHING besides hand-wringing.
Let’s be honest though, you’re probably gonna just end up being the racist shitwaffles you usually are.
Did you just assume our minority status?
Project harder angry white savior!
Project harder? Assume minority status? Are you just repeating things you’ve heard in the hopes they sound cool? You sound like a parody of yourself.
Sorry Kamala ran a dogshit campaign and failed. If you can’t extract any concessions from our representatives in a democracy, what the fuck is the point? Not doing genocide should be bare fucking minimum.
The least scratched liberal over here.
Calling people liberals, how will they ever recover. 🙄😂
Well, liberalism is the moderate wing of fascism. Ya’ll are so fucking smarmy while being propagandized stooges for the status quo. At least the rank and file conservatives are so bat shit insane they’re at least funny usually. They also have the capacity to reckon with the fact that real material problems exist, even though their solutions are so misdirected.
The thing is you don’t know anybody’s political alignment. For all the talking you do, all you base this accusation on is a single comment and slap the label on anyone who disagrees like a monkey throwing feces. That’s my point, not whatever else bullshit you’re on about.
I can’t ever know what’s in people’s hearts and minds, but I see their output clear as day.
And to be fair, the above comment was referencing the quote “Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds”. I was calling them a fascist for telling the anti genocide folks to fuck off because his blue team lost.
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