• ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
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    Can we not actively advocate for violence in meme form?

    And instead post subtle funny memes where it’s implied while also linking to where women/poc can learn gun safety?

    Mostly because this stuff gets taken down after a while.

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      I see where you’re coming from, but no, just like how everybody was cool with Indiana Jones killing Nazis, we’re all pretty cool with rapists getting killed by their victims.

      Don’t want to get killed by a rape victim? Then don’t rape them. Pretty simple stuff. I’m 36 next month I haven’t accidentally raped anybody even once, so I’m pretty sure you’re fine if you’re not actively trying to prey upon somebody.

      Violence is the only language these people “joking” about “your body, my choice” can understand. If we make it clear that we will fucking kill them if they try to act on that “joke” then it may serve as a deterrent. Too many women are sexually assaulted and raped, and most of their predators get away with it.

      Let’s all stop being so goddamn tolerant. I don’t care if it hurts a rapist’s feelings. If you have a problem with that stance, then I implore you to take a good hard look at what kind of person you are that you would side with a rapist against somebody who would defend themselves against their rapist. Maybe that makes you an accessory to rape, because at that point, you’re worse than complicit, you’re actively supporting rape.

      I didn’t think it’d be such a hot take to say that rapists who get killed while attempting rape got what they had coming to them, but here we are.

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          I didn’t think I needed to say it (based on the rest of the comment), but I haven’t intentionally raped anybody either lol. I know, I’m a real hero and champion of the people for never raping anybody. Truly the Jesus of my time. It’s a high bar, yet I somehow clear it every day without even breaking a sweat.

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        The rapist in the image is also a Nazi so it’s double cool to joke about it.

        Movie is ministry of ungentlemanly warfare.

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        I get youre frustrated. Im frustrated.

        The moment a platform/site/community starts actively advocating for violence, then it can get delisted, blocked, banned, etc.

        I work in an industry which literally cuts the Internet off of platforms that do that. I don’t want to get a ticket that tells me to remove Lemmy from the rest of the world.

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          It’s not advocating for violence. It’s advocating for defending against rape. Without rape, which is obviously violent in and of itself, there’s no violence to speak of. The bottom line here is that, through deterrence, this sort of post yields a reduction in violence. Being against it can only really be viewed as an objection to consequences for rapists raping people.

          If you got a ticket ordering you to cut off Lemmy over this, then it’s your duty to push back. An awful lot of terrible people were “just following orders” and the world doesn’t forgive that excuse. Stop defending rapists.

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              I thought I was pretty clear about it when you said that you were against the idea of posts about people defending themselves against rapists.

              Being against it can only really be viewed as an objection to consequences for rapists raping people.

              I’m not saying that you’re currently defending rapists, but it sounds an awful lot like you would be on the rapists’ side since you wouldn’t stand up to a request to block content that suggests that a rape victim should defensively harm their rapist to stop their rape. If that’s your stance, then that’s defending a rapist. That would be advocating against consequences for rapists, and I’m assuming that only a rapist who wanted to continue getting away with it would order such a thing. Or maybe it’s on behalf of their rapist friends. The point is that people who don’t rape people shouldn’t have any problem with the idea that rapists should know that getting killed in their quest to commit a rape is a very real possibility, and most people wouldn’t even feel sorry for them for being killed while attempting rape.

              If there’s a situation where we need to choose whether a person gets raped or the person attempting the rape gets killed in order to stop/prevent that rape, I don’t think there’s even anything to debate.

              It’s no wonder women chose bears. jfc.

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      Can we not actively advocate for violence in meme form?

      And instead post subtle funny memes where it’s implied while also linking to where women/poc can learn gun safety?

      I’ll give you a video game reference where a hobbit drowns, final offer

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      It isn’t violence it is threatening violence to someone who is threatening sexual assault. Women are being advocated to be SAed they should advocate defending themselves