In the leadup to an election is when there is maximum ability to influence the policies of the candidates. At no time before or after this period will any individual voter have more influence. Libs could have joined in with the uncommitted movement months ago and continually demanded an arms embargo on israel as a precondition for their votes. They could even have fucking lied and in their cowardly little hearts known that they were going to vote for the dems anyway. But no, even that small amount of effort was too much. Instead they immediately en masse announced their unconditional support for the dems and spent all their effort viciously attacking anybody who even mildly criticized their candidate. Absolutely useless dumb fucking crackers. I will not forgive them.
And you shouldn’t
The average USAan lib is going to put themselves over the lives of anyone else every single time
If you can be fine with seeing our government supporting literal honest-to-god no-foolin’ genocide, then you are scum
There is no excuse, you are scum and you deserve nothing but scorn and derision
I’m going to have to slightly disagree. They deserve more than that.
God you people are completely unhinged lmao. Voting doesn’t mater. It does nothing. WE SAY THIS ALL THE FUCKING TIME.
It doesn’t matter, but they are still making the decision to ideologically align themselves with and also sometimes materially support a genocide.
It’s not about the act of going to literally cast a vote for Democrats, it’s about either wanting or being ambivalent towards a genocide currently happening.
You support Nazis, you get the pit. How is that unhinged?
Because the number of people you’re suggesting executing, for one. And because their ideology is not actually Nazism, for two. And because the thing theyre doing does not actually contribute to the genocide in any material way BECAUSE AS YOU ADMIT YOURSELF VOTING DOES NOTHING. AND because in their mind, as hard as it is for some of you to get this, they arent supporting genocide. They’re resigned to the fact that the genocide is happening no matter what they do, and trying to improve material conditions in other ways. They’re wrong about this, lesser evil voting doesn’t work (and we really need a master post as to why btw, or a ProleWiki page about it). But this is the way our ENTIRE FUCKING CULTURE has gaslit us into thinking about elections and its VVERY FUCKIGN DIFFICULT to break out of it. If you’re one of the very small number of people who never thought this way about US elections, congratulations. You somehow avoided the conditioning. But the rest of us didn’t.
I was a lesser evilist about voting up until Oct 7 last year pretty much lol. And I was a communist way, way before that. Its not an easy mindset to break out of. These people are not Nazis.
Every single time? So I guess just sit on your hands and don’t bother agitating or educating or organizing because all of them will always be this way and never change. /s
Most USAmericans on Hexbear were libs who were voting for Obama and even against-Trump Clinton’s campaigns after they destroyed Syria and Libya and kicked off huge ethnic cleansings and mass terror. I wouldn’t doubt you would be saying “, you are scum and you deserve nothing but scorn and derision” to yourself years ago if you are USAmerican. The genocide of Yemenis has been for a decade and many people here still voted democrat for Obama, and Clinton against Trump. Thankfully you and others had people and communities around you without these anti-social and reactionary conceptions of mass-politics and so didn’t abuse you and threaten to throw you into a nazi pit for believing the liberal narratives that are LITERALLY OMNIPRESENT IN ALL SOCIETY AND MEDIA AND DISCOURSE FOR EVERYONE FROM THE DAY THEY ARE BORN; so you were able to be radicalized and educated how you were wrong. A shit ton of the politically conscious democrat voters are disgusted by the Democrats too but just buy all of the dead end status-quo narratives fed to them by the hegemonic media and discourses. So those narratives and conceptions are what is to be attacked. These attitudes are unhinged and counterproductive. Agitate and educate and organize.
Things have changed since 2011. There is an actual left wing presence in electoral political discourse that one can only pretend in bad faith to ignore. Half the content I see online is libs malding about left wing people not voting for dems. That was not the case in the Obama days. The level of exposure to left wing ideas has skyrocketed.