• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    Aww are the widdle capitalists upset the workers are realising how much value is being stolen from them?

    Maybe corporations should pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

    Pay what people feel they are worth, or go out of business.

    Isnt that what everyone here wants, the power of the free market to weed out inefficient businesses?

    Its literally a 70 cent rise. Thats barely inflation matching.

    Cry more, capitalists.

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      This isn’t the free market when it’s mandated by law. The wages in a free market would be determined by supply and demand without government collusion

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        We don’t live in a free market when business cartels can fix wages.

        This is labor competing back with the same methods that capital uses.

        Cry harder.

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          Isn’t about labor at all. It’s about the government setting wages.

          Lots of people lost their jobs or hours. It’s weird you like to see them suffer by incompetent government action.

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              Do you always talk in circles ? My statement is accurate. It isn’t free market when the government is mandating.

              Unions are free market.

              Now why you want the workers to cry harder is a weird response. Lots of people lost their jobs over this and you celebrate. Typical liberal.

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                Unions are aggressively suppressed by employers both via illegal tactics and lobbying the state for anti union laws.

                I am sure you know these facts… By we don’t see you crying over it unlike peasant win wage lol

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                    Because your created narrow context for your argument that doesn’t make much logical sense when you look at how system operates as a whole.

                    Picking good places for conservative arguements while ignoring big picture is a bad faith actor behavior.

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                Do you always ignore what is inconvenient to you?

                We don’t live in a free market. It’s a conservative fantasy. Grow up sometime.

                When you start bitching about corporations lobbying the government to keep wages down maybe I’ll take you seriously.

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                  I never made the claim that we lived in a free market. Do you always make things up?

                  I responded to the statement that this was a free market and pointed out that we are not a free market .

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          @breadsmasher Nope! I’m advocating for policies that would lower the production costs of the goods that are being served, as well as inflation and regulatory costs and fees like taxes, providing greater margins and stability for businesses, incentivizing them to voluntarily raise employee wages.

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            So “hahha ask for more get fired” is your way of saying “production costs should be lowered”.

            I don’t believe you have a good grasp on reality. Good day.

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              @breadsmasher No, it’s not. It’s my way of making fun of you guys for complaining about something happening that’s due to a policy you support, and then advocating for doing that again. This is downright hilarious, and worth laughing at!

              Everyone laughs at the fool who hits himself in the head with a hammer, says “ow that hurts”, and does it again. Y’all are doing the exact same thing here.

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          Increasing minimum wages reduces the value of everyone else’s money. Companies never take a hit from these increases. They always pass on the cost into the product or they shut down locations.

          Every time government increases the minimum wage, the poverty line goes up as well. It’s turns into a never ending inflationary cycle.

          You can’t just increase the minimum payment, because at the end of the day, the money has to equal some type of value. When the government forces a value, it reduces the value of everyone else’s money.

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        This was the wrong time to push higher wages. Small business are having financial problems. Many people don’t get most McDonald’s or other fast good places are small businesses.

        With inflation and everything else, they just can’t afford to take the hit. That’s why many closed or laid people off.

        Bakeries were excluded because of the buddies of the governor.

        It would make more sense to have a fast food union over the government screwing everyone over.