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    She was so smug that election year… believed she had it in the bag because going against trump was a “slam dunk”.

    She didnt even campaign in certain states iirc.

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      She didn’t campaign in certain states, and added fuel to the Trump dumpster fire because it made her look better in comparison. And Trump claimed he would help the states she ignored, talking big game in the Rust Belt to “Make America Great Again”.

      It really was a “slam dunk” in making sure the biggest dipshit running for president win because you just assumed you’d win.

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      She didn’t seem to realize she had been carried across the line in the primaries and actually had to run the rest of the way.

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        The primaries pissed me off so much, every outlet added the pledged delegates to the delegate count, so she had like 100 delegates before any votes were cast.

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      Her campaign also diverted money for voter turnout operations from the “guarantied to win” rust belt states to New York to make her popular vote turnout bigger. Talk about putting the cart before the house.

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        I remember her trying to turn texas blue. I think she was trying to run up the score. Guess she forgot it’s the electoral votes that matter.

        Clinton campaign to spend $1.5 million in Texas ads

        WASHINGTON — Campaigning in the GOP primaries earlier this year, Donald Trump liked to brag that he was the only Republican with broad enough appeal to put states in play that had not been competitive in ages.

        He pointed to his native New York and to California, coastal states that typically go Democrat. He did not mention deep-red Texas, which last went for a Democrat in 1976.

        But as Trump’s campaign stumbles in the polls, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton is expanding her efforts in a slew of traditionally Republican states, including Texas, where she is only six points down in the polls.

        Citing last month’s landmark endorsement by the Dallas Morning News, which had not backed a Democratic presidential candidate since World War II, the Clinton campaign is making a one-week ad buy in Houston, San Antonio, Austin and Dallas, touting the newspaper editorial.

        Though Clinton still is a long shot in Texas, political analysts see it as a sign of her recent strength nationally and in the critical battleground states of Pennsylvania and Florida.

        “I don’t think it’s knowable at this point what a Texas ad buy would accomplish,” veteran Texas Democratic operative Harold Cook said. “But I will say this: If the Democrat is buying ad time in Texas in a presidential election, it ain’t a good year for the Republican.”

        The ad buy — estimated at about $1.5 million — is a modest investment for a state the size of Texas, but Democratic allies say it could represent a shift to a “50-state” strategy designed to expand on the 270 electoral votes needed to get to the White House.

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        As Trump faces a multitude of allegations focused on his behavior toward women, Clinton’s new push into Texas and other Republican states also is seen as a chance to use her momentum to help Democrats in competitive House, Senate and other down-ballot races.

        “Donald Trump is becoming more unhinged by the day, and that is increasing prospects for Democrats further down the ballot, because of higher-than-expected turnout and enthusiasm,” Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook said Monday in a conference call with reporters.

        Mook also announced that the campaign would be adding $2 million in new spending on ads and direct mail in Arizona. Campaign aides said another $1 million is being deployed in Missouri and Indiana, the home of Gov. Mike Pence, Trump’s running mate.

        “I think they’re playing with house money right now,” said Craig Goodman, a political scientist at the University of Houston in Victoria, citing reports that the Clinton campaign is flush with cash compared to Trump, who has taken in less than half of the $373 million reported so far by the Democrat. “They’ve got excess resources.”

        The new ad comes as First Lady Michelle Obama and Chelsea Clinton will campaign in Arizona. Vice presidential nominee Tim Kaine spent time last week in Utah, where Trump faces a tough third-party challenge and Clinton received the endorsement of the Salt Lake Tribune. In Georgia, civil rights activist Jesse Jackson recently campaigned for Clinton.

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        Texas Republican Party Chairman Tom Mechler declined to comment on the Clinton ad buy. A state GOP aide, however, questioned the impact of television ads running for a limited time in largely Democratic urban markets. While the ads may demonstrate some muscle-flexing on the part of the Clinton campaign, Republicans consider them a play for the more pervasive “earned media” of news and social media reaction.

        Some campaign analysts estimate that a serious effort to compete in an expensive media state like Texas would require a push of more than $2 million a week from now until the Nov. 8 election. So far, the Clinton campaign has given no sign that it is ready to make an investment of that size, notwithstanding the six offices that Clinton and the Democratic National Committee have opened in the state.

        Texas Democrats see it as a hopeful sign that the national party is prepared to help make gains in the state legislature, with at least eight competitive seats in the markets covered by the ads. Democrats, working on a big turnout effort, also are hoping to pick up a congressional seat in a Texas border district that includes parts of San Antonio, one of the markets where the Clinton ad will appear.

        “In 2016, Texas Democrats have been laser-focused on building the permanent infrastructure necessary to make a stronger Texas,” Texas Democratic Party Deputy Executive Director Manny Garcia said in a statement. “We’re proud to have Secretary Clinton’s campaign investing in that long term vision. Every bit of support by national Democrats to help us make our case to Texas families helps get out the vote.”

        The Clinton ad appears to be timed for the beginning of early voting in Texas next Monday. It also comes on the heels of a very tumultuous two weeks for Trump, who has been battling accusations of sexually inappropriate behavior going back decades.

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        While many analysts see the Texas ad buy as a sign of a widening playing field, an aide to the Clinton camp emphasized that it highlights Clinton’s “unique” endorsement by the Dallas Morning News.

        The ad highlights the newspaper’s opinion that Trump “plays on fear” and shows “a dangerous lack of judgment.”

        Trump currently leads in the state by nearly six percentage points, according to a RealClearPolitics average. While significant, it is a much smaller advantage than Republicans candidates generally have enjoyed in recent presidential elections. President Barack Obama lost the state by 16 points in 2012.

        While the new ad is unlikely to reverse Clinton’s fortunes in the state, it could present a challenge to Trump strategists deciding how to allocate their resources in the waning weeks of the campaign.

        “It’s an interesting little chess play,” Cook said

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    No, everyone abandoned her because she says and does shit like this.

    Nobody owes you anything, Hillary. In fact, you owe the rest of us a whole fucking lot for being such a shit candidate that fucking Trump beat you.

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      Oh it’s not just that. The Hillary campaign and the DNC paid a lot of money to the media to hype Trump up because they thought he’d be an easy candidate to beat. She owes us because she created this fucking mess out of her hubris.

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        Hell her husband recruited Trump to run as Republican. They literally wanted to run against him. Keep in mind Trump was even surprised he won, she was that fucking bad.

        But now that he got taste of that power he wants it back.

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    Ah, the wonderful old “blame women for being irrational” - she’s such a feminist icon…

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    People in general abandoned her because she’s a shitty person with shitty politics. In the words of Colin Powell everything she touches, she screws up with hubris

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      I’d much rather have had her shitty politics for four years and still have the right to an abortion.

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        It’s not just up to you, the democrats should’ve picked someone that was electable.

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        Then your party should have done something to protect that right. They pissed away 50 years with empty promises

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    Reading beyond the headline, I kind of agree that she faced a sexist double standard where she suffered electorally for things that wouldn’t have impacted a male candidate as strongly.

    Being a slimy, self-entitled political creature is pretty acceptable for a male politician.

    Then again she did win the election by 2 percentage points. So as much as I dislike her, it’s probably more of a structural issue than either sexism or candidate quality.

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      She’s been suffering sexism for a long time. When bill was fucking around and cheating on her in the 90s, people were straight up blaming her for it. They were also being horrible to Monica L, while giving bill a wink and a nod for being a dude. The problem is that she took that and instead of making herself a softer, sympathetic and likable politician, she just doubled down on being harsh and unlikable.

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        She helped provide cover for Bill while smearing his victims. It has nothing to do with sexism, she’s a shitty person.

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        I suspect a lot of people secretly dislike her for allowing herself to be treated that way. Riding his coattails to the Senate certainly didn’t help.

        If she were Hillary Rodham, who was something like a Congressperson -> Senator -> Presidential candidate, she might have won.

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          Somewhat related but I was both happy and sad to see Edie Falco play Hilary on “impeachment”. She is so incredible in the role but we only got like a small handful of scenes of her.

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            I haven’t seen that but I am an Edie Falco fan after Sopranos and Jackie. I’ll have to check it out.

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            Yeah, it’s one of those things that some people try to convince themselves they don’t care about. They’ll say things like “that’s their relationship” or “she’s an independent woman”, I’m not sure they really believe it though. Most of them wouldn’t act the same way in their own relationships, unless they thought they had no other choice or had something to gain.

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      2016 was a year for an anti establishment candidate. A slimy insider can work in years where that isn’t the case, see Biden or Bush Jr for examples of it working.

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        Possibly timing played a role, sure. But both those candidates are men, so it could just be more proof of her point.

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          It’s really hard to prove sexism played a role in a presidential election, but the number of women serving for 20+ years in the house and senate makes it seem unlikely.

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      Then again she did win the election by 2 percentage points.

      I must have slept through her entire presidency because I don’t remember her winning at all.

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        That would be the structural issue. The candidate who won the election by a light but comfortable margin (48 v 46) didn’t win power.

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    Is this the new defense? I ask because I’ve also seen people here defending biden by mocking people for not liking him “because he’s not perfect”. No one hates these slimeball politicians because they’re a little less than perfect, they hate them for doing heinous shit like supporting genocide. We all saw how hillary laughed after she was key in destroying Libya. She was a favorite of billionaires and gave well-compensated speeches to big banks. She’s a garbage out-of-touch politician who threw her weight around in the democratic party and in the media to shut out Bernie, who was an actually great candidate who would’ve beaten trump.

    In her mind, it was her turn for the presidency and you can see how bitter she is about that loss because she still won’t shut the fuck up about it to this day and she loves to insert herself into conversations. So yeah, thanks for giving us trump, you selfish asshole. At least we all can point and laugh at you for your repeated embarrassing public displays of bitterness over never achieving your power-hungry dream of becoming president. Pokemon go to hell.

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      Clintons are the “NEW-Money” in politics. Bill was governor and Hillary was a lawyer getting kickbacks from Bill and vice-versa. Nothing illegal but it was all “gray-area”. People hated this type of double-dealing. Just barely-legal but completely unethical and morally-bankrupt. Then Bill got caught lying with his pants down.

      Hillary never understood peoples sentiments that the Clintons smooched on the system and tax-dollars yet they still got away with it.

      This is a problem of character meets long-term actions and tendencies.

      Hillary never got “her turn” because dirty politicians are not loved. She forgot that hard-work pays off when you are clean. And she forgot to campaign in Michigan and other places instead wanted to take a break.

      Hindsight 20/20. If she and Bill had come clean, told the voters that they wont be doing the old runaround and clean up the system and take responsibility and have Bill “SHUT THE EFF UP YOU PERVY IDIOT”. There might have been a chance that Hillary could have garnered sympathies as a hardworking housewife with a screwloose husband.

      Dems snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and all that.

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      This fucking ghoul claimed Henry Kissinger as a “good friend and mentor”, yet feels entitled to votes from anyone on the left?

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    Even the Norwegian media hyper normalized that Clinton would win. The news cycle was a circlejerk for how amazing Clinton was and how stupid hair Trump had. When push came to shove on the election day I couldn’t do anything else but laugh.

    Clinton booked this huge avenue with a major show to be out on when she won. The balloons weren’t dropped and she didn’t even show on stage. Trump had his election speech in a conference room in his hotel. It was a perfect display of the establishments arrogance and it confirmed Trump’s rambling.

    Ffs I don’t want it to happen again. Please no. But I believe the 2016 election was good for your democracy. If you sleep in a democracy you wake up in a dictatorship.

    Put Trump in jail and do some actual draining of the swamp soon.

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      the 2016 election was good for your democracy.

      It was not. The damage done in those four years far outweighed any lessons learned. Hell, we were supposed to have learned with W.

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        Hell, we were supposed to have learned with W.

        and this is why I have no confidence in our system. With how bad bush was, it should’ve completely destroyed the republican party then and there. Instead republicans get worse and democrats do nothing except insist that they must only be slightly better than republicans so that elections get as close to 50-50 as possible.

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      Yeah, I’m in New Zealand and from here their election looked like the main thrust of most of it was about forcing Democrats to vote for the establishment warmonger Hillary instead of their best candidate Bernie Sanders.

      Trump was sort of just a meme candidate for a long time because analysts didn’t realise he’d been gifted the pre-Trump Cambridge Analytica package (drain the swamp etc) by disaster capitalists.

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    A couple of retired women I spoke to prior to the 2016 election voted for the shitgibbon because Hillary had been “running a pedophile ring” and had “ordered hundreds of murders”. Russian / GQP propaganda was very effective.

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    This is why fascism will win, this mentality right here. Complete inability to self-reflect by establishment dems. All they can do is cling mindlessly to party power and sniff around in the dirt for their next lobbying payday while our Democracy sinks into the ocean.

    If you voted for Clinton in her primary or Biden in his; you are the problem. You are why we find ourselves in this moment.

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      I switched my registration in the last primary so I could vote against Trump. I think it’s pretty ridiculous how much people will bitch about the Republican party and rising fascism when we could just take over the party and send the assholes packing.