Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.
They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.
Its not about being a shill for Xi. Its about defending the country that went from having a 20% literacy rate to a country with its own space station in the span of 70 years. With railways and infrastructure that outshines those of the American empire, the richest nation in the history of the be world.
You may not call it socialism but it is still worth defending. My family and friends in China see improvement and growth before their very eyes. Dirt roads are now high speed rail. How many working class Americans can say things have gotten better in the last few decades? That they can afford to dine out more often, that they can afford a bigger apartment? How many can say their children are getting better educated, that schools are improving, that their extra curricular sports programs have gotten funding? How many can say that they’ve seen a new hospital built in a lower income area, or at all? I know households where the grandparents grew up literally illiterate, like animals they weren’t given an education, without running water or electricity, and in leaner months would have to skip meals to pay the landlord. Today their bilingual grand children sit next to them in a home that they own, learning physics from a Livestream from the Chinese Space Station. Can you even conceive that level of improvement to a life, let alone a million, let alone a billion?
And the sheltered Reddit libs cannot understand that people would defend that. They cannot understand why people would defend that. They must be shills, there’s no way anyone could genuinely defend a system that improved the lives of a billion people and abolished poverty. Our memes depict Xi as Winnie the Pooh, so those defending China must be robots or paid shills. No-one would actually defend China right?
But they have a lotta cameras
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where do you live that you have privacy? the moon?
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Nice dodge there
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Of course it matters. When you name the country we can actually compare using real data instead of this wishywashy bullshit.
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Lol, this is the most pathetic attempt to not admit you were wrong I’ve ever seen.
How’s your girlfriend in Canada?
Didn’t actually name the country huh?
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Hope you’re not planning on visiting the UK or any American metropole anytime soon either then
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No it isn’t, that’s laughable. The US has far and away the worst most heinous surveillance of its citizens, not to mention the citizens of other nations as well. Try reading a summary of what Snowden revealed about the US state surveillance programs for instance
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you think it’s better that the US tries to hide all of its nefarious (and frankly worse) spying? what the hell???
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I’m not from China but I’ve been there and it isn’t hard to speak with people from China to learn that it’s not some dystopia. US is hands down far more of a police state.
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I know Edward Snowden is a libertarian or some dumb shit but man he really did get himself exiled for nothing.
“I assume that the enemies designated by my rulers are worse than my admittedly very wicked rulers, based entirely on testimony from those same wicked rulers.”
Snowden got citizenship in Russia for his entire family, a lot of money from authoring a book and other media deals, and worldwide fame as a hero
He may not have achieved his goal but his consolation prize is not bad
Yeah it’s certainly much better than for example, Assange, but it’s wild to me that people just gloss over the US surveillance state at this point
I legit can’t tell if this is a joke lol. Which country do you live in that doesn’t have a lot of cameras? I have awful news for you if you live in the US or the UK.
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this is a hilarious thing to say if you live in any western country
preach
All the Chinese people in China who I totally really know in real life for sure. Those Chinese people in China that I totally really know all say they love love Xi. It’s totally because they really really want to and not because dissent isn’t allowed. They totally didn’t start making grade schoolers go to several extra hours of school a day to learn to worship Xi 2 years ago btw. Also there is no air pollution in Beijing. Did I mention I totally know some Chinese people. You’re all a bunch of sheltered white libs…not like me. I mean yeah, I am a lib, only 15, white, and I do live in my parents basement…but I know things, things that you don’t. There’s no way other people have any experience of the world so you have to believe, because I pretend…I mean DO, I do know some Chinese people in China and they are Chinese. They totally love their Chinese life in China where everyone has 120% literacy rate and reads 5 astrophysics books on their way to work in Beijing where there’s no air pollution in China.
…China
“I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
Sorry, which country is brainwashing people to worship their country from childhood? I forget.
Who said shit about worshiping the US? You guys are so pedantic. You are all worried about exact language when it comes to yourselves, but take all kinds of liberties when it comes to others. You don’t even have any goal other than being an asshole. there’s no actual discussion to be had. You just consistently make wild, inaccurate speculation in order to (try to) enrage people. You’re so far off the mark though that it’s completely impotent. Have good life auto-fellating your self-perceived intellect…
You said (baseless) shit about Chinese kids being forced into worshiping Xi
Go on, put two and two together as to why I might post Western kids being brainwashed into worshiping the US after that.
show us your penis
The kid is 15, let’s not
Like I had to do a double-take because there is no way a sane person can write:
And then say:
Immediately afterwards, like its beyond imagination, I initially thought they were elaborating and calling us 15 year old white basement dwellers.
Fucking sad, the level of highschool education in america.
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yeah no kidding buddy. glad you’re able to do some self reflection
It really just blows your mind that there are real people with real opinions based on their life experiences that don’t reflect your biases, doesn’t it.
This person is literally a white 15 year old and has no life experience
It’s just evident that you don’t actually have that real life experience. This is not what Chinese people say when not under duress. Something like 80% of Chinese people not living in China (read, who aren’t forced to support the government) disapprove of the Chinese government. I’ve lived and worked with Chinese people. They don’t say what you say they’re saying. I’ve lived and worked in communist countries. It’s not this socialist utopia you make it out to be. So yeah, it’s pretty clear you don’t have any idea what you’re saying. You keep talking about “Experience” when it’s obvious you don’t have any…I do. So fuck off with your fantastical agenda pushing bullshit.
Rich people who can afford to leave and settle permanently in a foreign land disapprove of Communist home country, shocking!
Were you with the CIA or…?
Thanks for telling me what 80% [citations needed] of all Chinese people (not counting the vast majority of them because they live in China) think. I’m sure they also appreciate being spoken for. Maybe people who like living in China don’t see a reason to leave? Seems like a pretty obvious explanation, even if I ignore the statistic being direct from your ass.
Your “real life experience” is a pretty funny idea too, seeing as how you apparently think that all 1.4 billion Chinese people are so effectively controlled that even though they all hate living there they will never let their friends and family know. Seems like a fantasy to me. I could say that about the US “all Americans hate the us and want to leave but they aren’t allowed to say so, so they pretend to like it” it would be patently stupid and there would be no evidence of it, so it’d be on par with your claims.
As far as a utopia, no one said that but you, it’s just a strawman argument. It is impossible to make an argument that material conditions for people in China are not improving at one of the most rapid rates in the world.
It really just blows your mind that there are real people with real opinions based on their life experiences that don’t reflect your biases.
^That’s not a retorical question anymore btw.
Posted with zero irony from someone with the username “Jesus” who is pushing the standard US state department line like he’s worldly. show us your dick
Go to Sydney Chinatown and ask them what the opinion of China is and 80% will be pro China not against.
Strike up a conversation in Mandarin with a line cook or waitress, any one of the working class.
Having to pretend to dislike China is a defense mechanism, otherwise the cumskins will turn on you like you’re a subhuman or a spy because they all have attitudes like you, which I do get reinforces the notion that overseas Chinese dislike China. But hate crimes against Asians are on the rise, so better safe than sorry.
We are not some brainwashed masses at the beck and call of the CPC, liberals like you just don’t understand the concept of critical support. You’re either 100% behind something or 100% against it.
You’re really bad at this.
Waste of a username.
A literal socialist god, spent on this prick
chyna
The Virgin coherent well structured fact-based essay v.s. The Chad passive aggressive unhinged NATO rambling
Can I see ur hog?
If you are only 15, living in your parent’s basement is normal. Also, this forum is for and by adults, please leave.
Dude I am Chinese. I was born in China, my family is from Tianjin and Wuhan. My grandfather grew up illiterate. His comrades were mostly illiterate. One of my grandfather’s comrades I call 爷爷 was the one that went from a peasant family to living in a flat he owns.
你认识多少华人？