Also yeah I can’t believe I blanked out on how fucked up 5 was

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    40
    ·
    9 months ago

    I still remember the part where you go from Somalia as viewed by a white man from Boise, ID to Africa as viewed by a 19th century Englishman with straw skirts and spears and magic temples

    Even as a teenage boy, I was agog

    Especially when you find that journal entry that states that the enhanced parasite they infected these people with, increased their jumping power

    Literally the black people have an extra leg muscle, that's why they're more athletic than the otherwise superior white man shit

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      32
      ·
      9 months ago

      Yeah at first I felt the game was just tone deaf in depicting a roid raged white man punching out meek africans but the village temples scene made me think this shit was intentional and goes beyond cultural myopia.

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    edit-2
    9 months ago

    At least the discourse around 5 is better today than it was in 2008 wherein anyone calling this racist shit out was belittled. And it sucks because I’m a big Biohazard fan but even when I was a lib playing 5 for the first time it raised my eyebrow and go “well shit”.

  • Poogona [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    9 months ago

    I played the hell out of 5 back in the day and was blessed to do so with people laughing in disbelief at the way the racism got more and more ambitious over the course of the game

    Like it starts with a familiar “hostile hordes” trope that can hide its racism beneath the broader class paranoia of modern zombie media

    But then you have the tribal African zombies showing how dark it truly gets in the rural hideaways of the Dark Continent us-foreign-policy

    And to top it all off you have the final sections filled with ridiculously stereotyped “African militants” wearing camo pants and red berets with mini guns

    It’s all totally problematic but at least it was energetic in its derangement, Japan especially at the time was so behind the curve when it came to matters of race

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    9 months ago

    “What if we made RE4 but with co-op!”

    Should have been a giant no-issues money printer. But then somebody at the studio twisted the racism dial until it broke off.

  • Charliisarobot [none/use name]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    9 months ago

    I have been playing through all the re games with a friend, if you haven’t played it’s fucking wild how racist it is, even for the time it sticks out. All the controversy was centered on the first act which is fuckin bad but it gets so much worse anyone saying it’s not that bad because “there were Spanish zombies and these are african zombies” either hasn’t played it or cannot be trusted it’s fuckin wild. The tribal shit after the first act is 1930’s cartoon level racist.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      I was on the 'well, it takes place in this locale and the bad guys are a western company exploiting the region, so there’s a good critique, so the imagery is pretty bad but it’d combined with an anti colonial message, which if all of this was less ham fisted the juxtaposition could be really interesting, so ehhhh, attempt at anti racism comes off as racist category." And then the tribal dudes showed up. Also the game turned out to be dumber than mist resident evils story wise so the commentary I thought was there at first wasn’t.

      Edit: main

      • Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        Yeah any benefit of the doubt I was tempted to give the game disappeared when I saw that one unlockable costume for the female lead… blocky-wat

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    ·
    9 months ago

    I think they can and will ultimately remake it. The trick I think is mostly just to shift the story focus on to Sheva, have Chris as more of the partner character, and just take out the whole swamp / grass skirts section. The issue would be the story angle between Chris and Wesker, but I think that could still play out fine with Chris as secondary.