Ah yes, famously conservative media like One Piece, Ghost in the Shell, Gundam, Princess Mononoke, JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, and Cowboy Bebop

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      conservative values like “reject the emperor’s orders in order to save nature” and “care for the sick, have equality for women AND respect and find balance with nature”

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    It’s really not about media literacy. The right doesn’t care about truth or consistency, their interpretation of things is purely Id based, if they like a thing they just force a interpretation that aligns with their value, they likely know it’s bullshit but whatever, makes their pee pee feel good. If a Nazi liked fucking Battleship Potemkin they’d mental gymnastics an interpretation that aligned with their beliefs. It doesn’t matter how blatantly left you make the message in a piece of media, CHUDs will find a justification for liking it.

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    Conservatives stand for nothing, except vague nostalgia about the “good times” so it makes sense their “conservative core” anime would just be a bunch of stuff they watched as a kid and as a teen. No analysis, just “this was really cool when I was a kid, and I didn’t have to pay rent or anything back then, so I associate these two unrelated concepts because my brain is smoother than a billiard ball.”

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    Black Lagoon

    Japanese pencil pusher gets hijacked by pirates

    realizes his company doesn’t give a shit about his safety

    defects to the pirates’ side

    commits international crimes with a female Chinese mobster (and her big boobed catholic nun friend), a black soldier, and a Jewish hacker

    conservative media

    You can’t make Black Lagoon today because FVW (family value warriors) snowflakes would call it woke, pandering, and forced diversity.

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    I like Jojo, but in the rare instances where it really offers political messaging it’s basically libertarian bullshit (see the end of Stone Ocean episode 27, where Araki takes a strong stand against motorcycle helmet laws on existential grounds for some reason)

    The main thing I like about Jojo is its derangement, so this doesn’t bother me too much

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          probably teaming JoJo up with literal Nazi Germany to fight the pillar men.

          Suzi Q is described as a young woman and is employed by Lisa Lisa as a personal assistant, and Smokey Brown is a blend named after musicians Smokey Robinson and James Brown so I don’t really see that as being too out of pocket.

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            Let’s be fair, there’s a reason it’s “Smokey Brown” and not “James Robinson”, not to put too fine a point on it.

            But yeah, fair point about the Nazi thing, I was just thinking in the libertarian direction.

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      Pretty much all of Steel Ball Run is a criticism of American imperialism, and Jojolands has a very gender non-conforming character and presents punching cops as a good thing. The politics of Jojo improved massively as the series went on

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        I mean, it’s still wildly misogynist and likes its eroticized SV (which puts a real damper on the GNC character’s introduction, to put it lightly), plus with the libertarian thing it’s unclear to me if it’s really a “punch cops” message from the left or because Big Government Bad.

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      Literally made by a guy who identify as communist After double checking I realised that I took an analysis of his works I saw some time ago at face value, he didn’t openly self-drscribe as anything but there’s matter to discuss

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        Does he? I don’t think I’ve ever heard that before. I’ve heard him describe himself as an environmentalist and a humanist, but never a communist. Though if he has read Marx, it would explain his “anime was a mistake” misquote quite a bit, as he was talking about how “anime” being a thing is very limiting and how the market is just making things that are “anime” basically commodifying the concept of animation itself.

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    Hey, all of my favorite ani- oh

    Not gonna blame them for princess mononononoke though; she’s simply a forestcore wolfgrind sigma tradwife who’s been greenpilled and is actively rejecting the woke metalist agenda and their soy anti-tree narrative.

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    What the fuck is conservative about a show about an elf who outlives her friends and kinda has a midlife crisis about that before going on an adventure to get to know them and other people better

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      There’s an episode where she attacks a demon on sight under the assumption that all members of the demon race are evil, and instead of it being a learning moment it’s all like: “yeah, demons are all evil.” And she’s vindicated in her desire to kill all demons.

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        I get that some people ascribe fascist undertones to this show, but imo it can just as easily be read as “the demons are the fascists”.

        For instance it’s established early on that one of their goals is to genocide the elves.

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    Ok I think I mostly get it, this person used exactly 5 criteria to make his picks:

    #1 “I judge a book by its cover”, this includes almost certainly not watching even a single episode.

    Spy x Family, GnP, JoJo, Sailor Moon, Black lagoon, Tanya, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Gundam

    #2 “I watched exactly 1 episode to be sure and yep this ain’t woke”

    Jormungand, Cowboy Bebop, Kill la Kill.

    #3 “My 4chan friends like this thefore its probably ok I guess”

    Bochi , Lucky Star, Azumanga, Konosuba, Princess Mononoke, One Piece, CSM, Ghost in the Shell

    Also he probably heard those weebs refer to “Fate”, FATE, FAAATTTEEEE so much that so he googled exactly the first result which is the original game art, good job lazy ass mfer.

    #4 “This sounds anti-woke enough right? Sounds good to me” literaly same as cover but mfer read the title literally

    Hellsing, Spy x Family, Angel Cop, Gunsmith Cat

    #5 “My cousin was watching this 15 years ago, guess it ain’t woke then it ain’t woke now”

    Bleach, DBZ, Monster, K-on, Eva,

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      Monster is comically anticommunist, at least. Like, I think there might be one episode where they “both sides” things a little, and obviously it’s also anti-Nazi, but the main plot hinges on completely absurd anticommunist brainworms about Soviets torturing children to, uh, make another Hitler or something? It’s really hard to keep track of what anything means because the mangaka has the worst Mystery Box proclivity that I’ve seen in literally any medium.

      Meanwhile I think Chainsaw man is at least mildly progressive, way to OOP’s left, considering the allegory about nukes that implicates the Japanese and US governments in absolutely heinous crimes. idk, I guess you’re right that Denji being porn-brained means channers would like it, but is that really why it’s on here?

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        I don’t think the Soviets were involved, at least not up to the episodes I’ve seen. Rather, it’s Neo Nazis being prevalent in east Germany and other Warsaw pact countries doing experiments on children. It would’ve been a great plot point had the author been a little more woke and made the story part of a larger CIA/GLADIO type operation.

        Fuck man. It could’ve been so great. Historically, there have been psychological and authority figures in the serial killer and systemic child abuse world that overlap with intelligence operations (not talking about satanic panic either). Not to mention the Brabant massacres were literally the CIA and NATO cultivating neo nazi serial killers. This was the once chance GLADIO could’ve been portrayed in an anime, and it will likely never happen again.

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          I’d highly suggest reading Banana Fish (manga); without spoiling too much, the main antagonist is the head of the Corsican mafia, and the author doesn’t shy away from explicitly namedropping the CIA and its anticommunist operations in South America and Vietnam (among others), or the systemic abuse of children from marginalized backgrounds by the US government. The anime is good too, but it’s set in the 2010s rather than the 1980s so some of the changes don’t make sense (e.g. replacing the Vietnam War with the Iraq War).

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      Angel Cop is explicitly anti communist. Like the protagonist is basically a vigilante serial killer who goes around killing communists lol. Lots of gore. Probably the only thing that makes sense on this list in addition to Halo.

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    You’re sure this isn’t agitprop? Back in 2015 I was trying to spread a Reading with Hillary image that included Zinn, Loewen, and Thomas Frank on it mixed with a couple of Lib books.