• neeshie@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Russia doesn’t usually explain or elaborate that much. They just say “we only target military targets, whether obvious or disguised” and then shoot a missile at an school or something, killing civilians. And they could be telling the truth, because Ukraine has used civilian infrastructure like that before, but Russia never provides evidence that the specific school was used that way. This is pretty much the Russia/Ukraine equivalent of the tunnel system, bc you have valid military targets around/in some civilian infrastructure, but Russia ends up just bombing everything.

    You also mentioned russian attacks being “actually indiscriminate”, but half of the bombs that Israel has dropped on Gaza have been unguided, so that seems like it’s also indiscriminate.

    Also, according to this amnestly international report (https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/02/israel-opt-new-evidence-of-unlawful-israeli-attacks-in-gaza-causing-mass-civilian-casualties-amid-real-risk-of-genocide/), there are a lot of cases where Israel isn’t actually warning civilians before leveling their houses. They also say “Even if Israeli forces had intended to target legitimate military objectives in the vicinity, these attacks evidently failed to distinguish between military objectives and civilian objects and would therefore be indiscriminate. Indiscriminate attacks that kill and injure civilians are war crimes.”

    So yeah, it’s not really debatable that Israel is committing war crimes. Stop trying to run defense for them.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      There is no Russia/Ukraine equivalent of the tunnels. The Hamas tunnels are unprecedented in world history. Russia and Ukraine are both legitimate countries with legitimate governments.

      Amnesty has no credibility anymore unfortunately. It is Hamas that has a duty of distinction, but it doesn’t usually wear uniforms and hides its fighters, weapons, and infrastructure right under people’s homes, hospitals, and school. Ya know, because it’s an illegal terrorist organization and in no way a legitimate government/state? Has Hamas ever once prosecuted its own people for war crimes? No, but it does stone people to death for being “collaborators.” Why don’t you stop trying to run defense for literal terrorists, designated as such by a few dozen different countires?

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        9 months ago

        Amnesty has no credibility anymore unfortunately.

        It’s funny how Amnestly always loses all credibility when it’s reporting on a genocide. Same as all the other organizations you don’t think are credible anymore… Funny how when Israel reports things, they aren’t “just reports” but ground truths, except for the ones that were so undeniable so you had to do a tongue-in-cheek admission… and when the Palestinians and their human rights organization report on it, it’s just a “report”…

        Please, don’t kid yourself like that.