• DoubleShot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      I think another factor is these people have spent most of their leftist lives mostly isolated from actual “real world” leftists. If you’re a Marxist professor or writer in the 70s, who are you gonna be interacting with other than maybe other Marxist academics. When you let your views percolate in your brain (or only interacting with other egghead leftists), you end up being unable to grow and change.

      Like, I really don’t think myself or most leftists who grow up in the internet will get like this when we’re in our 80s. We joke about touching grass, but the truth is being able to interact with other regular leftists from across the world on a place like Hexbear really does keep the brain worms in check, I believe.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      It’s bizarre and disgusting. What the fuck is wrong with them? Plently of people got the message back in the 70s, 80s,90s, where these assholes too busy writing sternly worded letters to Trotskyists to notice? Fuck em.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        Its curious, because I know more than a few olds who are utterly blaise over gender politics. Almost as though they’ve been living through it their entire lives. Admittedly, these tend toward LGBT olds and olds that had to wrangle over miscegenation laws.

        Finkelstein, for all his virtues as a journalist, simply isn’t any kind of culture warrior. I can’t say I’m totally shocked that he’s blind to the modern domestic civil rights era when he’s been focused elsewhere. After that, he’s as much a victim of the Most Propagandized Mass Media On Earth as everyone else.

  • MF_COOM [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    To listen to woke programming, you’d think the two most burning issues confronting Humanity are climate change and transgender bathrooms in North Carolina

    Fucking 0 for two you dumb fucking bozo

  • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Sigh. Great, another guy who’s popular in leftist spaces who thinks people like me are some sort of nuisance for existing. :sadness-abysmal: Of course stupidpol agrees with him.

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      stupidpol

      Comrade, for the sake of your mental health, I would suggest just not looking at that hellhole. I know it can be tempting, but i haven’t looked at them in years and I consider that a definitive boon to my overall existence.

      • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        1 year ago

        You’re right. I guess sometimes I just can’t resist the temptation out of morbid curiosity, but it always ends in anger and sadness. Definitely not good for my mental health. I’ll follow your advice, thank you. :Care-Comrade:

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Fuck you norm. You’re not my comrade. Jesus fucking christ this is so easy, so low and slow across the plate. You’ve had fifty fucking years to pick up a godamn book and learn the most basic aspect of feminism and gender theory, so fuck you.

  • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    This is like being surprised :zizek-ok: doesn’t have shit, reactionary opinions, too. These people aren’t Marxists just because they get one or two subjects right- Norm still ends up at the same parties of the Martha’s Vineyard intelligentsia as Dershowitz no matter how many on stage tiffs they have over Israel

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish
    2·
    1 year ago

    Yeah.

    This is what I meant.

    How, you might ask, is a dude who was born and raised in New York City surprised and outraged that drag exists? Because he’s a fucking dinosaur. Gender was not a political issue (for him) before the fall of the Soviet Union, and his only idea for a political program is to return to the political landscape of 1968. Anything which requires him to learn anything new is experienced as a threat or a ploy by the capitalists. Useless man.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      How, you might ask, is a dude who was born and raised in New York City surprised and outraged that drag exists?

      Pretty normal if you’ve spent all your life in Queens. Curiously enough, given the name.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Gender was not a political issue (for him) before the fall of the Soviet Union, and his only idea for a political program is to return to the political landscape of 1968.

      There’s a a reason so many women who tried to join leftist orgs in the 60s and 70s ended up sticking to women’s liberation orgs, and that reason is dudes like Norm. I guess it’s good on him that he’s called out at least one form of oppression that most libs are blind to, but normally that should mean being able to also recognize all the others instead of completely denying them because they ensure your privilege as a white cishet dude who’s a credentialled part of the NYC intelligentsia.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      This is what I meant.

      Ugh the clip in that thread. Norm is blaming Angela Davis for the liberal establishment coopting her message and whitewashing it - like what the fuck else is she supposed to do, Norm? Advocate for a communist revolution which in America right now is every bit as far flung a possibility as prison abolition is? Immolate herself on the steps of the White House in protest? Stop punching left for fuck’s sake and that goes for the article in the OP as well.