What kind of world are the Orange and his puppet master billionaires building?
Are we headed for slavery, extinction, the matrix or some other post apocalyptic future?
How do these despots think that food arrives?
At the moment it seems they’re hell bent on global destruction.
When an empire can’t expand, by means of territory, knowledge, or other means; it turns inwards on its own people and territories in a last ditch effort to survive, as it lunges towards its inevitable collapse.
Oligarchs replace most government functions with private entities that they have equity in and funnel tax dollars into their own companies. It looks like they’re trying to cause a depression too, so they can buy everything up for cheap (farms, homes, etc). I think they’re stupid, but not stupid enough to not realize an economic depression coupled with gutting social safety nets will lead to massive crime waves and riots; so I’m guessing they’re planning on a police state and work camps for people they arrest (think that’s what they’re going to do with many of the immigrants too).
I’ve heard it postulated they are realigning with Russia and other dictators because we’d lose our normal allies if we became such a society. And they probably have very lucrative deals with Russia as well.
I sucks we don’t have a good, inspiring opposition party or something to lead or rally around. Without that, anger will just manifest as unorganized, unproductive riots and violence. “Conservatives” are still pretty brainwashed too; believing whatever they’re told by media. They will support the government gunning down and enslaving “criminals,” at this point in time. I’d hope that changes when things get hard, but media will work hard to redirect the blame.
Postulated? Russia openly announced this yesterday. Krasonov is in the house.
President Muskrate is an accelerationist; who believes that societal collapse should come sooner rather than later. Some speculate that his plan is to capitalise on burgeoning AI along with the billionaire class to control people once the dust settles.
Paranoia can tell you anything you don’t control is a threat - whether it’s another country, a race, a personality type, lack of web privacy, whatever. The MAGA leaders are so drenched in that paranoia, there’s really no limit to what they might do to squash anyone and anything they see as a possible threat to them.
Total Control. That’s really what it’s all about. They want to control the narrative, they want to control the markets, they want to control every little bit that there is left that hasn’t been touched. What they want is a dystopia and they’re gearing moreso into realizing that dystopia than they ever been.
Ever heard of Shadowrun? The TTRPG? That’s what things are gearing towards, just take away the interesting and cool aspects from Shadowrun and you basically have reality right now as we know it.
I would have said the Cyberpunk TTRPG. Shadowrun was basically Cyberpunk with magic.
Cyberpunk even predicted this
Shadowrun or Eclipse Phase, either way it’s not good. I’d like the tech from the latter, but not the rest of the setting.
It would be a whole lot cooler if we had actual dragons hoarding all this, as opposed to metaphorical ones.
The most likely scenario is something similar to the post Soviet style collapse that followed USSR.
Gorbachev Introduced glasnost and perestroika to reform the Soviet system that inadvertently eroded the ideological and institutional foundations of the USSR, accelerating its collapse. Today, Trump is pursuing a similar, if ideologically inverted, disruption of the US institutions. Attacking the deep state, undermining trust in media and elections, and prioritizing loyalty over expertise. He’s enacting a purge of the permanent bureaucracy under the guise of draining the swamp, feeding off polarization and institutional distrust. These policies are eroding the foundation of the system paving the way to its collapse.
Soviet collapse followed as a result of a shock therapy with sudden price liberalization, fiscal austerity, and privatization that led to hyperinflation, economic instability, and the rise of an oligarchic class. Similarly, Trump is busy slashing regulations and cutting corporate taxes, fuelling short-term growth that deepens wealth inequality and corporate consolidation. Like Gorbachev, he’s ushering in a polarized economic landscape where faith in the system is rapidly dwindling among the public.
The decline in living standards is amplifying nationalism, in form of MAGA, and deepening cultural and regional divides in the US. Trump’s whole rhetoric is rooted in divisive politics. Just as Soviet republics turned inward post-glasnost, prioritizing local grievances over collective unity, so are states like Texas, Florida, and California are increasingly talking about breaking with the union. People like Musk are well positioned to target the remaining public services and industries for privatization.
The USSR collapsed abruptly, while the US might face a slower erosion of its institutional norms. The big difference here is that the Soviet Union was structurally more resilient to societal collapse compared to the United States.
USSR had a lot of redundancy in critical infrastructure such as public transit, people owned their homes, and food production was largely localized. This allowed communities to survive during systemic failures. Another big factor is that Soviet society emphasized collective welfare over individualism, fostering mutual aid networks and state-provided essentials like healthcare and education, which could buffer against collapse.
The US relies on fragile, privatized systems with just-in-time supply chains, and largely deregulated utilities. We already saw how this system buckled under the stress of the pandemic, and routinely fails to deal with natural disasters like the LA fires. America’s dependency on globalized trade coupled with hyper-individualism and lack of contingency planning, makes it prone to chaos in a collapse scenario. The profit efficiency driven model risks catastrophic failure under pressure.
The rate of profit continues to decline because of overcapitalization. Factions are aligning to decapitalize rivals in order to increase their own rate of profit.
Also, they’re all manic and dissasociated.
It’s a coalition of crazy. It isn’t entirely clear who is going to be in control of what or for how long. It could get very messy.
Orange juice
End game is to go on yet another settler genocidal war to appease the imperial core working class.
As a map some days ago showed, Canada, Greenland, Panama, probably Israel, maybe even Ukrain - it’s all about shipping lanes.
All that effort makes sense if there is the believe that global trade will increase and that the USA will still be relevant when the center of the global population is in Asia.
So extinction is not the goal but could be an accepted risk.
The disappointing answer is that it’s going to be very similar to how things are now, just with fewer rights and more repression around the edges. Almost all of Project 2025’s policies are things that this nation has used in the past or is using today to a lesser degree - voter suppression, rollback of labor rights and civil liberties. The rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer, but that was happening long before Trump.
The end game is a cyberpunk-esque corporate controlled future. No government, only companies/the owning class deciding what’s happening. Yes, slavery essentially, because people have to work for them to survive, but that’s already done. No “less work” savings because of rising productivity, only more and more money/power centralized in them.
The government is the only one stopping me from buying a small patch of woodland and building a cabin there to live in. Get rid of that and suddenly I no longer have a reason to work more than a handful of hours a month.
How is the government stopping you?
It is illegal to do so. You cannot live on your own land for more than 28 days of the year unless they give you permission to live on it. Which of course a house comes with that permission, a patch of woodland does not.
Can you live in a tent, yurt, van or other non-permanent structure?
Not for more than 28 days of the year. Non-consecutive isn’t a way around that. People have tried and some do get away with it but others get caught and usually any structure has to be demolished and land seized.
Realistically 29 days no one is going to bother you about it but when its clear you are living there that is when they will most likely turn up.
I’d rather kill myself, and I have plans on how.
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No, just blowing up somewhere quiet that won’t do too much damage, but I did think about it, and it’s unrealistic. I just want a plan B for when things become intolerable. I won’t be a slave.
i know people are uncomfortable hearing this, but i am the same way. I’m already barely making it to work most days due to disability, i would probably literally get worked to death anyway. might as well spare them some satisfaction.
These guys aren’t corporate though
Simple. We are on the express to cyberpunk (the literary genre).
Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a dystopian futuristic setting said to focus on a combination of “low-life and high tech”. It features futuristic technological and scientific achievements, such as artificial intelligence and cyberware, juxtaposed with societal collapse, dystopia or decay.
Cyberpunk plots often involve conflict between artificial intelligence, hackers, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth…
