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I’ve been using Zen for the past couple days and it’s absolutely spectacular. I really really been enjoying it.
It claims to be a fork of Firefox but there’s still Firefox under the hood and you can tell. But I find that it runs significantly faster than Firefox standard. So who knows. The author seems to be making it as ambiguous as possible so I would think that it’s a soft fork that’s basically stock Firefox with a few minor changes and a new look.
I have found Mozilla’s sync across devices handy, but now I’m in the process of moving over to using Vanadium on my GrapheneOS phone and FireDragon on desktop.
FireDragon started out as a Librewolf fork, but is more recently based on Floorp. They are still keeping in sync with Librewolf’s privacy enhancements, with some of their own thrown in. I like that the default search engine is Garuda’s instance of Searx, with Whoogle as another option if you don’t want to self host. FireDragon will also sync your Firefox account off Garuda’s server instance if you like (which would be more useful if I weren’t going with a Chromium fork on mobile). The Garuda project is certainly looking more trustworthy than Mozilla these days.
I use Firefox and Chrome as I am not a woke vegan
What do you mean by that
People that complain on little tiny thing
The Gnome browser (epiphany?) is actually quite good. But when I’m on windows I use Zen. On GrapheneOS I use IronFox.
I also recently tested Ladybird. It’s still not usable for daily use, but I’m excited for it.
Switched to Librewolf on Linux and Ironwolf on Android. But looking forward to Ladybird!
Do you mean IronFox or is there another fork I didn’t know yet
Firefox, while I dislike their new FAQ and TOS I build it from source and the TOS does not apply.
I wish they would make Firefox Sync a self hostable product that they also host for you for like 5 bucks a month. I would pay for it (or any other way to directly give money to FX instead of Mozilla) like I do for Bitwarden.
Aren’t their services you can use to sync bookmarks and such like Floccus?
Yes, but I actually would pay them for their services if they guarantee me that they will use that money to improve Firefox and Firefox services. I want to be a premium user of Firefox, but instead of trying to monetize their core userbase they annihilate them.
I actually like their advertising business idea and their other services and I understand that they need money but is whay they are doing right now really the best way?
Firefox on Desktop. Chrome or Vanadium on Mobile.
Zen, absolutely love the workflow and the fact that it is not chromium based.
Waiting excitedly for ladybird, it is already very impressive but still years left until it is daily drive able
I like zen a lot but I’m struggling to drag a tab from one window to another. The sidebar always collapses on the target window before the tab gets there. Any tips?
Perhaps right click on the sidebar -> disable compact mode? I haven’t had any issues moving tabs between windows, but then again I keep the sidebar persistent
On pc I use both librewolf and firefox
On mobile I use mull, fennec, and vanadium if for some reason they want something chromium based
Still using Firefox but looking to move to LibreWolf
I use several, depending on use case:
- Tor Browser for general and anonymous web browsing (e.g. reading news, looking up stuff, and so on)
- Mullvad Browser as a clear web alternative for general use
- Librewolf for generally logging into sites with personally identifiable accounts (e.g. to buy stuff)
- Ungoogled Chromium for those few sites which only work with a Chromium-based browser, or other specific cases
- On Android (GrapheneOS): Tor Browser and Vanadium
All regular browsers have some hardening applied and uBlock Origin installed.
I still use firefox despite their questionable leadership, for one major reason: it prevents Google from setting whatever web standards they want. Sites that aren’t standards compliant will usually still work in Chromium-based browsers, but they will break in Firefox, and then I can report the bugs.
Brave.
Because I installed it when it was pre-alpha version. Ended up to an ugly window with just an addresse bar. I though “this shit will never worked, yet another utopistic project, too bad…”
Then, came back 2 years later, gave him a 2nd chance and “OMG ! They fucking did it !”. So I keep it as a redemption for not having believed in the project at first.
…Brave is just chromium by techbros, right?
Firefox. And Thunderbird. And donate to Mozilla.
Don’t really see the point in using a fork that, by the time you boil it down, just takes Firefox’s work and then releases it later.
I want a Google and Apple alternative and I’d rather support it at the top of the chain.
I use Librewolf, I manage passwords with pass and rofi. Hoppefuly AIs will write a new FOSS web browser. I read here and here that the web standards are too big to be implemented by humans.
