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      Pathogens don’t care whether or not you spread them to other people who don’t drink raw milk, I’m afraid.

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        And people who care, actually do things like get vaccines, and believe doctors.

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          Unless they can’t, some people are immunocompromised. The world is more complicated than you think, so try thinking instead of reacting.

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            I dunno if we have them, because they are both only transmissible via tainted food or water. And, well, if you don’t drink or eat tainted food, you wont really have to worry, now will you?

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              You don’t know that you can’t have a vaccine against bacteria?

              Then maybe you’re out of your depth here.

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                  Dude, seriously stop digging. Vaccination is for viruses, not bacteria.

                  I get that you really love your raw milk, but that doesn’t entitle you to just make shit up.

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          There isn’t an available bird flu vaccine that we could manufacture fast enough to make it available even if we started right now. This is assuming that they let us have it instead of telling us to tough it out and take some vitamin C.

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              You didn’t even read that, did you?

              H5N1 continually mutates, meaning vaccines based on current samples of avian H5N1 cannot be depended upon to work in the case of a future pandemic of H5N1. While there can be some cross-protection against related flu strains, the best protection would be from a vaccine specifically produced for any future pandemic flu virus strain. Daniel R. Lucey, co-director of the Biohazardous Threats and Emerging Diseases graduate program at Georgetown University, has made this point, “There is no H5N1 pandemic so there can be no pandemic vaccine.”[34] However, “pre-pandemic vaccines” have been created; are being refined and tested; and do have some promise both in furthering research and preparedness for the next pandemic.[35] Vaccine manufacturing companies are being funded to increase flexible capacity so that if a pandemic vaccine is needed, facilities will be available for rapid production of large amounts of a vaccine specific to a new pandemic strain.[36]

              There is no guarantee that any “pre-pandemic” vaccines will work.

              But then, you think you can vaccinate against bacteria…

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                  No. No you can’t. Again, you really do not understand how any of this works. Pneumonia isn’t even a cause, it’s a symptom. I can be caused by fungi, viruses or bacteria. Saying you can vaccinate against pneumonia is like saying you can vaccinate against a runny nose. That’s literally not how anything works.

                  But please do keep digging.

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      I think that’s their point. Just let them be adults and decide. I think overall it’s a very calculate issue used as a proxy for something else. What I don’t understand is why the Democrats or people on the left haven’t seen this stuff for what it is. Also there’s no counter to this strategy. It’s like a weird game theory situation where one group is knows game theory and the other side knows how to play checkers

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        I think overall it’s a very calculate issue used as a proxy for something else.

        That much is true. Its a proxy for industry de-regulation.

        I’m all for people getting the raw milk they demand, because I hope it will lead to a quick demise.

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          Problem is, if they acquire a novel virus, they can basically send us into another pandemic.

          This kind of crap hurts everyone.

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            Honestly?

            It would not be a bad thing, if that were to happen in the US. Then, we wouldn’t be able to fuck over other countries, due to a severe lack of manpower.

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          Big Dairy would probably mark everything up, selling pasteurization as a premium feature.

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      The flu in general is great at swapping proteins with other strains many of which are extant in the population right now. Every human bird flu infection of which there are presently few is a chance for highly pathogenic bird flu to make a version that is more transmissible which might yet retain its present greater than covid lethality. If this happens millions could die among them the most vulnerable including the old and those with auto immune disorders. Most of these folks who would die don’t themselves drink raw milk for obvious reasons.

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        Well, thankfully, civilized nations around the globe will be able to contain the damage to mostly just the fascist Imperial States of America.