I disagree. Anybody that joins Loops right now is forced to the one instance. That’s not federation. That’s not an issue for you. Which is valid. But you don’t get to police those who don’t share your view.
It’s also very featureless. Basically videos, comments, likes. I’m on it, and I’ve opened it maybe 6x in 2 weeks? I also think it’s just an open feed; all the videos posted in chronological order (but I could be wrong here). Idk if this goes against the Fediverse creed to have an algorithm-fed feed, but I think part of the nature of these short form, endless-scrolling apps is finding vids about your interests from new places.
I think we should ultimately support algorithm feeds, but they should be free and open algorithms that can be peer reviewed, and also maybe give the users some control over which algorithm is applied and how. The problem with current social algorithms is they operate in the dark and are manipulative, not that they provide relevant content to users.
That, and it’s arguable primary purpose is to serve ads. “People similar to you clicked on these ads” type shit. And I get it to a point, platforms need to support themselves, and unless it’s a paid app, that doesn’t keep servers running. But it’d be nice to just get one every 10 minutes, and not every 10 seconds, and also to opt out of tracking for served ads instead of just random ones.
loops doesnt federate. why is it there?
no mbin (interstellar)?
Because it’s brand new and will eventually federate. The developer is deep in the fediverse so 100% it will
But right now it doesn’t…
It’s really not a technicality to get worked up about.
I disagree. Anybody that joins Loops right now is forced to the one instance. That’s not federation. That’s not an issue for you. Which is valid. But you don’t get to police those who don’t share your view.
Nobody is “policing” anyone, I just don’t think it’s a valid argument.
The irony
I don’t think you understand what that word means.
Sure
They’ve done federation on a few test posts, but it’s definitely not there yet for normal users to use.
My understanding is that it will when it’s more strange and that the dev did the same thing with Pixelfed.
im a big fan of not marketing your product until it can do the things you intend. theyve been spamming loops everywhere for over 6 months.
Well Microsoft has been doing it for 30 years.
It’s also very featureless. Basically videos, comments, likes. I’m on it, and I’ve opened it maybe 6x in 2 weeks? I also think it’s just an open feed; all the videos posted in chronological order (but I could be wrong here). Idk if this goes against the Fediverse creed to have an algorithm-fed feed, but I think part of the nature of these short form, endless-scrolling apps is finding vids about your interests from new places.
I think we should ultimately support algorithm feeds, but they should be free and open algorithms that can be peer reviewed, and also maybe give the users some control over which algorithm is applied and how. The problem with current social algorithms is they operate in the dark and are manipulative, not that they provide relevant content to users.
That, and it’s arguable primary purpose is to serve ads. “People similar to you clicked on these ads” type shit. And I get it to a point, platforms need to support themselves, and unless it’s a paid app, that doesn’t keep servers running. But it’d be nice to just get one every 10 minutes, and not every 10 seconds, and also to opt out of tracking for served ads instead of just random ones.
With the Tiktok ban I think marketing it prematurely has been a good thing and introduced a number of people from that world into the fediverse.