The astroturfing propaganda bots are seriously pushing hard on Lemmy.world this past week.
What are you psychos trying to manufacture consent for now?
Why waste your time with all this pseudo-intellectual fluff instead of just saying we’re dumbass children for refusing to support your favorite genocidaire? At least that would have the virtue of brevity, this is just a bunch of rambling nonsense to make a playground insult look prettier.
The cognitive development part was educational, but the thesis is… Meh. Harris didn’t promise to end the genocide in Gaza; she promised to keep doing what Biden did and believe that that would end the war (she refused to admit there even is a genocide), and there was very little Trump could’ve done that Biden isn’t already doing. I also think you’ll find that drawing the line at genocide does make sense if the formal operation you’re doing includes anything beyond the next four years.
Well, Trump is going to get the codes to the nukes in two days, isn’t he? He said “all hell will break loose”.
https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/3/31/republican-congressman-suggests-nuking-gaza
The amount of suffering in Gaza over the past year is unimaginable. The number of dead is unimaginable. Sure, you can count the deaths and recite the number. But I think it has as much emotional resonance as if I tell you the sun weighs 2 x 10³⁰ kilograms. It hits the limit of your understanding of scale. it maxes out the dial. All you really understood was “big number”.
But how would that be worse if what’s happening there is just a big number?
Uh… None of these are quoting Trump, who just two days ago actually did something about Gaza.
What did he do?
TLDR: He sent an envoy basically saying “Trump ain’t got time to deal with this so end this war and end it now”, which setting aside how effective it was (I’d say it was but it’s debatable) is more than anything Biden did to get a ceasefire from Netanyahu.
By the same author of such masterworks as: Curing sleep apnea with magic
The back and forth between materialism/science and idealism/magic is amazing. It’s like open heart surgery as a pagan ritual.
Takes a bow
It’s been two months and she hasn’t woken up gasping for breath since. It was a mind problem, so I fixed it in her mind. The imagination is the mind’s development environment.
I actually enjoyed the read. The watch analogy is a good one.
I think a preference to Authoritarian Personality would make a better connection.
The interesting thing is that they’ve rejected authority figures in their own culture, only to embrace outside authorities. It’s puzzling to me.
It’s almost like we’re critically evaluating which leaders and systems to support based on whose material interests they serve as opposed to blindly trusting or hating everyone purely on the basis of them wielding authority 🤔🤔🤔
Except that you’re blindly believing those leaders when they tell you they’re there to help the working class when they clearly have distinct material interests as professional politicians. It’s a complete failure to understand Marxist materialism.
You’re no different than working class MAGA followers. Just a different flavor of the same phenomenon.
I don’t really hate anyone. I just acknowledge the obvious fact that Joe Biden or Xi Jinping have different and obviously competing interests compared to me or a random Chinese citizen.
Don’t tankies struggle with basically all reasoning? Abstract or otherwise?
Tankies’ reasoning makes a lot more sense if you think of them as paid Russian trolls. Their paycheck depends on them understanding false ideas as if they were true.
Yes a lot of them do seem to be pushing an agenda, and they feel very trained on how to escape answering… anything. If they feel they are losing, they resort to insulting, and trying to make you feel foolish. Anyone with half a brain can see this coming a mile away, but the tankie carries on, patting themselves on the back.
I just assume there is no way to convince them of anything, because to even try is an absolute insult. Their opinion is the only correct opinion. Like, China is great, and everything bad is western propaganda. But, ask a gay tankie how they feel about China not having same sex marriage and their arguments start to fall apart.
If you’re even going to try to argue with one, just find out how to make them feel undesired in China and Russia, and then they fumble.
If you just read this pile of hundred year old books, you’d understand. Of course I’ve read them. I just can’t tell you about them. They only make sense as one complete unit. It’s impossible to understand any of it until you’ve read the last word on the last page. That’s why I can’t use all the reading I’ve done to make a point other than “lol you haven’t read my books”.
Oh, they will copy and paste all 50,000 pages of you talk to them long enough. ;)
Complaining that they both can’t explain an argument and that they’ll send you 50,000 pages about it is hilarious.
The trick is that they haven’t read it either, tankies just copy/paste stuff with titles that sound nice
Look, he’s doing the thing live! Right how, for us!
Only way to prove they don’t know something is by knowing it yourself. Do you have any examples of communist readings with names that “sound nice,” because I don’t know of many.
They’re very good at excuses, fallacies, and mental gymnastics. Those are reasoning too. Just not very advanced reasoning.
This is actually why insulting people’s intelligence is generally just lazy and inaccurate, aside from any problematic aspect. Because many people who believe wrong things are actually quite intelligent, and they apply that intelligence quite cleverly to defending wrong positions. I would have hoped that someone like you, with all your pretenses of being an enlightened progressive, wouldn’t resort to attributing every disagreement to your opponents’ innate mental inferiority.
For example, the reason you come to wrong conclusions like this has nothing to do with a lack of intelligence or any innate characteristic, it’s because you’re full of yourself. You don’t bother to understand people’s actual reasons for coming to the conclusions that they do. I suspect that I have a pretty decent read on you, actually - you’re probably rather sharp and grew up a big fish in a small intellectual pond, the people around you generally were wrong and uninformed, so there was little value in listening to them. I can recognize this psychological profile because I fit it myself. Eventually, you find a room that you’re no longer the smartest person in, and you either learn to listen or you burn out and avoid it (for me, I aced every test through high school and undergrad and then hit upper division physics and realized that I couldn’t just instantly grasp it like I could with other stuff and suddenly had to learn how to study with others). Because the thing is that actually good ideas and conclusions come from cooperative, collective effort, beyond what even the sharpest person in the world could come up with on their own - it’s why the peer-review process is such an essential part of science.
Like, have you ever considered the possibility that a disagreement might not stem from one side being deficient, misinformed, or developmentally impaired, but rather from people having different values, experiences, and priorities? Is it possible that you haven’t actually solved philosophy with objectively correct positions that a person would have to be brain damaged to disagree with? Can reasonable people ever disagree?
