• kava@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    if we’re gonna ban stuff just based on deaths, we should get rid of fast food, soda, cigarettes, alcohol, and cars in general

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
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      19 hours ago

      I’d argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns. For example, it’s illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances.

      We can dive into specifics if you want, I’m sure you’ll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don’t think that’s especially a fruitful conversation.

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        19 hours ago

        argue that food and drink, cigarettes and cars are already regulated more than US guns

        i’d disagree. of course, I agree that all these items are regulated. which makes sense for all the same reasons- a lot of people die if you fuck up. but you don’t need an id and a background check to buy a McDonalds combo meal

        I’m sure you’ll be able to find some examples, and counter examples, but I don’t think that’s especially a fruitful conversation.

        maybe not but your example

        it’s illegal to sell soup out of the trunk of my car in some jurisdictions where I could sell a gun under the same circumstances

        I think the opposite is true. There’s a ton of places I can sell soup, especially if it’s pre-packaged and inspected by the FDA. for example I can go to walmart and buy a bunch of canned soup and sell that all day, no problem. In most of this country, however, you cannot just sell guns from the back of your car

        sure, there are exceptions in certain states. for example a private seller who is not in the regular business of selling guns, there are specific states that allow you to do so with significantly less scrutiny than a dealer. although you still have the responsibility to do a basic check (is person old enough, what is person buying gun for)

        beyond that, the overwhelming majority of gun sales go through Federal Firearms Licensed businesses. which conduct background checks and check ID.

        tldr: if you’re in one of the few states that allow it and you want to sell 1 or 2 guns out of the back of your car, OK. if you are anywhere else and/or you sell more than a couple guns, you’re liable to get hit with some very serious federal and state charges. like potentially years in the federal penitentiary type charges

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          18 hours ago

          you don’t need an ID or a background check to buy a gun, gunshow loophole baby!