The laughable part is the hardware list keeps slipping, my 2017 HP workstation said it was not supported due to CPU, now it recently changes to get ready for W11. Like all of a sudden when they see no one is adopting 11 as fast as they want they go and change requirements.
What I’m picking at is not requiring some min HW to run their adware. It’s how much, compared with the development of their OS. W11 is mostly W10+trash.
The requirements are 7 year old hardware. While not everyone upgrades their PC every 7 years, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to stop supporting 7 years old hardware. Apple requires iPhone XS (6 years old) for iOS 18, Google requires Pixel 6 (3 years old) for Android 15, MacOS Sequoia requires 6 years old laptops. Turns out Microsoft is the one giving the most support.
The requirements listed things that W11 doesn’t technically require, like TPM. The OS works just fine without it. It was a business requirement, not a technical one, that got people upset.
TPM is required for Windows 11 because it is used for security purposes. The world is filled with things that aren’t “technically required” but they are actually required because they help prevent things. The web doesn’t “technically require” HTTPS, but modern websites require an HTTPS connection. A seatbelt isn’t “technically required” to drive a car, but you are required to wear one anyways.
It is not the same. The government won’t even allow you to drive a car without a seatbelt if you somehow managed to buy one. Anyways most cars will provide you support for 5 years. A car is worth tens of thousands of dollars yet you get less support than a computer and nobody is complaining about that. Just like you can use your car with its 10 years old software, you can use your 10 years old computer with your old OS (Windows 10). This is a very simple problem.
I would disagree given that two of the most efficient computer chips are based on phone SOCs (Qualcomm and Apple). Anyways, the fact that your system is powerful doesn’t mean anything from a support standpoint. Supporting old hardware means you need different versions for devices with different capabilities and architectures, which is not feasible for a company that also wants to focus on new technologies. Again, out of all top operating systems, Windows is giving you the most support.
Hardware hasn’t changed in the way you think it has for quite a while. For shits i span up a compatability check on my fifteen year old file server and it qualifies for w10.
The big wank issue with win10/11 is microsoft trying to enforce corporate hardware requirements on home users. Mostly so they can start trying to garden wall their shit.
Hardware hasn’t changed in the way you think it has for quite a while. For shits i span up a compatability check on my fifteen year old file server and it qualifies for w10.
Your 15 years old system is Windows 10 compatible because Windows 10 was released in 2015, meaning that it is actually a 5 years old system when compared to Windows 10. You can run Windows 11 with any device from 2019.
The big wank issue with win10/11 is microsoft trying to enforce corporate hardware requirements on home users. Mostly so they can start trying to garden wall their shit.
You keep saying this line about corporate hardware. What’s “corporate” about TPM 2.0?
Right? Where does Microsoft get off adding minimum hardware requirements to windows 11 for the first time ever?
The laughable part is the hardware list keeps slipping, my 2017 HP workstation said it was not supported due to CPU, now it recently changes to get ready for W11. Like all of a sudden when they see no one is adopting 11 as fast as they want they go and change requirements.
What I’m picking at is not requiring some min HW to run their adware. It’s how much, compared with the development of their OS. W11 is mostly W10+trash.
The requirements are 7 year old hardware. While not everyone upgrades their PC every 7 years, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to stop supporting 7 years old hardware. Apple requires iPhone XS (6 years old) for iOS 18, Google requires Pixel 6 (3 years old) for Android 15, MacOS Sequoia requires 6 years old laptops. Turns out Microsoft is the one giving the most support.
I think that it is; gimme a decade or so then we talk. Specially when feature-wise W11 is basically W10.
The requirements listed things that W11 doesn’t technically require, like TPM. The OS works just fine without it. It was a business requirement, not a technical one, that got people upset.
TPM is required for Windows 11 because it is used for security purposes. The world is filled with things that aren’t “technically required” but they are actually required because they help prevent things. The web doesn’t “technically require” HTTPS, but modern websites require an HTTPS connection. A seatbelt isn’t “technically required” to drive a car, but you are required to wear one anyways.
This is like a car seat manufacturer refusing to “support” cars without seatbelts and then claiming their new line of seats is secure.
It is not the same. The government won’t even allow you to drive a car without a seatbelt if you somehow managed to buy one. Anyways most cars will provide you support for 5 years. A car is worth tens of thousands of dollars yet you get less support than a computer and nobody is complaining about that. Just like you can use your car with its 10 years old software, you can use your 10 years old computer with your old OS (Windows 10). This is a very simple problem.
Obviously it’s not exactly the same. It’s an analogy. It’s only meant to help illustrate a point.
Pcs aren’t phones, dude. Most new systems don’t have the specs on my beast and she’s WELL past the 7 year mark
I would disagree given that two of the most efficient computer chips are based on phone SOCs (Qualcomm and Apple). Anyways, the fact that your system is powerful doesn’t mean anything from a support standpoint. Supporting old hardware means you need different versions for devices with different capabilities and architectures, which is not feasible for a company that also wants to focus on new technologies. Again, out of all top operating systems, Windows is giving you the most support.
Hardware hasn’t changed in the way you think it has for quite a while. For shits i span up a compatability check on my fifteen year old file server and it qualifies for w10.
The big wank issue with win10/11 is microsoft trying to enforce corporate hardware requirements on home users. Mostly so they can start trying to garden wall their shit.
Your 15 years old system is Windows 10 compatible because Windows 10 was released in 2015, meaning that it is actually a 5 years old system when compared to Windows 10. You can run Windows 11 with any device from 2019.
You keep saying this line about corporate hardware. What’s “corporate” about TPM 2.0?
Tpm is the move up from smart cards. It’s a layer of system security a home user doesn’t need