• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      7 days ago

      Bipartisan war in drugs/police state

      I guess the George floydd protests didn’t go far enough to get that change Obama promised.

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        6 days ago

        i dont see how war on drugs/police existing are fascism.

        Unless you mean to tell me there is a US state where the police run the government.

        unsure what change we’re talking about with obama, but to be clear, the floyd protests were some of the largest and most significant protests in the history of the US. Although with a rather shitty mantra, so that didn’t help much.

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      7 days ago

      Examples of Fascism:

      • Funding "Israel"s genocidal “war”
      • Funding dictators (ex: Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc)
      • Tax breaks for the wealthy in exchange for favors
      • Compromising on the civil liberties of minorities
      • Allowing states to establish Fascism
      • Normalizing Fascist positions (ex: border, security, defense, etc)
      • Actively fighting actural Leftists because they make the capitalist class feel uncomfortable
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            5 days ago

            i mean, that wouldn’t be authoritarian, if it had popular sentiment, and was cast into law by popular sentiment more broadly. And yknow, also went through the congress, and the executive, and most of the rest of the federal government. But nope we don’t know how the US federal government works here so we pretend like it works otherwise.

            authoritarianism is a specific brand of dictatorship.

    • LemoineFairclough@sh.itjust.works
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      8 days ago

      Giving support to Israel is one example that some people would likely provide. I would like to see as few war crimes as possible, and I’m not certain that Israel isn’t committing any (to put things very lightly).

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        6 days ago

        israeli support is definitely one of them, but then again it’s the middle east. They don’t seem to like peaceful resolution to problems in general.

        war crimes are definitely bad, but when you launch in invasion plan into a country by starting off with a little bit of terrorism, i feel like it’s pretty safe to say most bets are off the table by that point unfortunately.

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                4 days ago

                unfortunately those people would be wrong lol.

                Also i wouldn’t consider campaigning to be political experience, i consider holding an office position to be actual experience.

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                  3 days ago

                  Are there ways to have political experience without holding an office position?

                  If the only way to have political experience is holding an office position, there will come a time when the only people you can vote for are dudes with no political experience: eventually some council member or city mayor will die and nobody with “actual experience” will campaign.

                  Do you just not apply this metric to local offices, or to people who have held a local office position?

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                    Are there ways to have political experience without holding an office position?

                    it depends on how strictly you define political experience, in this case i define it as having actual relevant experience to the position and job at hand, as well as the bodies behind it (civil education, of which most people do not have)

                    if you define it loosely, something like “being politically educated” i’m more qualified for holding presidency than trump is.

                    of course i would argue lower levels of position require less experience, for example being a house or senate member. These things require a lot less knowledge than being a president. Still a good amount of knowledge, but you can manage these with little to no information, if you’re intelligent and capable.