• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    15 days ago

    biden is extremely popular among blue collar workers, he really has done a lot. As well as a number of things for veterans as well.

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      15 days ago

      biden is extremely popular among blue collar workers

      Harris lost every tax bracket between $25k and $100k. The administration was only popular with white collar workers and with the folks at the very bottom of the income slope, and only relative to Trump.

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        Harris lost every tax bracket between $25k and $100k. The administration was only popular with white collar workers and with the folks at the very bottom of the income slope, and only relative to Trump.

        oh that’s weird, i thought i was talking about biden.

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          Plenty of women winning seats in states Harris lost.

          Slotkin beat Rodgers in Michigan. Fischer beat Osborne in Nebraska. Rosyn beat Brown in Nevada. Baldwin beat Hovde in Wisconsin.

          Dems seem to confuse their habit of running weak national candidates at the top of the ticket with some generic social hatred of whatever gender or ethnicity those candidates claim. The idea that Biden - who was polling in the 30s against Trump by the time the party dropped him - would have outperformed Harris because he was a white man is absurd.

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            https://cawp.rutgers.edu/blog/congressional-statewide-results-women-2024

            Women account for roughly 25-30% of the members of the house and Congress, and that’s a record high in both cases, there’s a roughly 20% gender gap in elected officials.

            They’re at roughly 30% across the board for elected positions in the U.S.

            Women candidates actually almost reached gender parity for the Democrats this year, so about half of candidates were women.

            https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2024/11/2024-election-results-women-representation-gender-gap?lang=en

            Republican candidates saw a drop from last time, and fewer of them won.

            Republicans don’t support women like Democrats do, Republicans won everything this year

            93 Women in the house are Democrats , and that’s les sthan half the Democrats, so even in an election in a party with near-parity gender representation in their candidates who have voted in record numbers of women, there’s still a gender gap in representation, but it’s close, I’ll give them that.

            The Republicans regressed, they’re no where near gender parity, no surprise there.

            And at the national level, the results speak for themselves. Misogyny was absolutely a factor.

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              Republicans don’t support women like Democrats do

              They don’t pander to younger and browner women in the same way Democrats do.

              But when push comes to shove, they support Wall Street.

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              Misogyny was absolutely a factor.

              im not fully convinced, but then again, practically everything is a factor, i would argue it’s more of a trend, rather than a cause.

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            If the blue conservatives pin this on sexism or racism, they get away with keeping the status quo. The status quo is killing us.

            Blue states need to replace First past the post voting and give 3rd parties equal access to the electoral process. Democrats believe in democracy right?

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              Blue states need to replace First past the post voting and give 3rd parties equal access to the electoral process. Democrats believe in democracy right?

              fun fact, this may put the left is a position to never win an election again, there are definitely strategic states that would benefit, and i think a more generalized movement towards something IRV would be productive, it’s a rather unfortunate predicament we’re in.

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        because voters are a largely uneducated block and will “vote for the other party because this one did bad” more often than not.

        Just look at the history of basically all elections ever.

        edit: to be clear, by uneducated i mean, uninformed on politics, not literally uneducated.

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      Detroit and its entire auto manufacturing industry swinging the state red +1.4%

      Lol whatever you say buddy