If you use Microsoft office for work stuff, how do they get away with this? I get that they can violate your rights as an individual because fuck the consumer you peons don’t get representation from your government representatives, but when you’re working for some other company which has its own ton of lawyers and you use this product, how is Microsoft not getting their shit sued out of them?
Of course it can be. But what if you don’t do that. It’s then just totally fine for Microsoft to gank your IP? Like that’s totally legal and will stand up in court?
Or what if some employee fucks with their settings? Sure you can fire the employee but what about the IP Microsoft now has? It’s all good for them to use that?
Same if I just print out a bunch of documents, walk into Microsoft’s offices and hand it to them. Sure my company can fire me, maybe even sue me. But that doesn’t make the IP suddenly fair game. Even by just looking at it, Microsoft could potentially open themselves up to legal trouble.
They mentioned it in the agreement and gave you the ability to turn it off company wide. If you wanted to protect your IP you should have used Linux 🤷♂️
This isn’t about protecting your IP. This is about the incredibly shaky legal ground Microsoft is standing on by making it the default to slurp up all your files.
Or maybe the guys in the company doing the gpo’s need to update their certification so they learn this shit…
Just guessing, I’m a Linux guy in a Linux company. Maybe the way I worded the comment was disingenuous, but when Microsoft is so unethical I am using the “to quoque” logical fallacy to justify it
I was once one of those Microsoft guys with 2000 certs, and I’m not gonna lie, I liked working with MS stuff.
It’s usually inane, stupid and expensive shit on the one hand. But they were wasting company time and company money. I also worked in the banking sector, so it’s not like we would have been making the world a better place if it was more efficient.
Certs gamified the whole work environment. The whole thing is that they are not that hard to get if you get into it, it’s kind of a game. However, they cost a fuckton to get and maintain, but if you are in a good place, that’s on the company as well. Actually, the company is paying to make you more valuable to it, so that’s nice.
And since everything is so fucking inefficient, other departments will be moving at a sloth’s pace as well, so if you are half-decent at automation, and you can get a WFH job, most of your workday is basically playing video games.
If you use Microsoft office for work stuff, how do they get away with this? I get that they can violate your rights as an individual because fuck the consumer you peons don’t get representation from your government representatives, but when you’re working for some other company which has its own ton of lawyers and you use this product, how is Microsoft not getting their shit sued out of them?
That can be controlled by group policy for corporate installations
Of course it can be. But what if you don’t do that. It’s then just totally fine for Microsoft to gank your IP? Like that’s totally legal and will stand up in court?
Or what if some employee fucks with their settings? Sure you can fire the employee but what about the IP Microsoft now has? It’s all good for them to use that?
Same if I just print out a bunch of documents, walk into Microsoft’s offices and hand it to them. Sure my company can fire me, maybe even sue me. But that doesn’t make the IP suddenly fair game. Even by just looking at it, Microsoft could potentially open themselves up to legal trouble.
So I don’t see how any of this is legal.
They mentioned it in the agreement and gave you the ability to turn it off company wide. If you wanted to protect your IP you should have used Linux 🤷♂️
This isn’t about protecting your IP. This is about the incredibly shaky legal ground Microsoft is standing on by making it the default to slurp up all your files.
I feel an EU lawsuit incoming.
The files are the IP.
Yup, and Microsoft just takes copies of those files by default. The legality of which is dubious at best.
It’s manageable through GPO and off by default in Enterprise and Education like the other unconscionable shit I guess.
Or maybe the guys in the company doing the gpo’s need to update their certification so they learn this shit…
Just guessing, I’m a Linux guy in a Linux company. Maybe the way I worded the comment was disingenuous, but when Microsoft is so unethical I am using the “to quoque” logical fallacy to justify it
I was once one of those Microsoft guys with 2000 certs, and I’m not gonna lie, I liked working with MS stuff.
It’s usually inane, stupid and expensive shit on the one hand. But they were wasting company time and company money. I also worked in the banking sector, so it’s not like we would have been making the world a better place if it was more efficient.
Certs gamified the whole work environment. The whole thing is that they are not that hard to get if you get into it, it’s kind of a game. However, they cost a fuckton to get and maintain, but if you are in a good place, that’s on the company as well. Actually, the company is paying to make you more valuable to it, so that’s nice.
And since everything is so fucking inefficient, other departments will be moving at a sloth’s pace as well, so if you are half-decent at automation, and you can get a WFH job, most of your workday is basically playing video games.
I’m not familiar with to quoque. How is that pronounced. Kuocue? Cock?
I miss spelled it it’s tu not to
Pronounced too-kwoh-kwe
It’s a word I can only remember having read, but I checked YouTube, and that’s what the thumbnail said (didn’t see the video, my kids are sleeping)
Yeah I think at this point it’s really just on the company - why are you still using such an untrustworthy piece of software?