I met a guy in a bar, and they asked me why the democrats lost (we don’t live in the US)

I replied with something along the lines of “because they didn’t condemn the genocide in Gaza” and they responded with “isn’t that hypocritical? The left claims to be against antisemitism”

I tried to explain the usual antizionism isn’t antisemitism, but before I finished they responded with “but we have to give the [antisemitic slur] something”

I had to leave for my turn on the karaoke, but after that they came up to me apologizing and explaining how they hate both sides

I don’t want to live in a shitty web comic

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      2 days ago

      The deciding factor in the presidential election was really just inflation, wasn’t it? Just a bunch of bozos thinking that the president has a big lever labeled “economy” and that if the economy does poorly under Team Blue that they should try Team Red instead, and then when the economy does poorly under Team Red they should try Team Blue again. Aiding and endorsing genocide certainly lost Harris a large number of votes, but it was not the single determining factor. This is at least one analysis I heard which made sense to me.

      • TheDrink [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        2 days ago

        I think this is the endpoint of any individualistic liberal democracy. Most people don’t engage with politics most of the time, and historically the way that political movements got around this was by embedding themselves into the people’s lives and giving them a lens through which to think of politics when they did. But in America our workplaces are thoroughly depoliticized, other groups that a person might belong to have been eviscerated, and the few political formations we have left at the smaller level (shit like HOAs and megachurches) were designed from the jump to be pretty much irredeemably fascist. So the average person has no lens through which to interpret politics, and just shoots their opinions from the hip while reacting to the most immediate material conditions impacting their life.

        Anyway I expect the rest of the presidents in my lifetime to be one term wonders (even if they’re nonconsecutive).

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        2 days ago

        idk. Apparently the popular vote ended up being quite close so I’d venture to say there was no deciding factor and Killemall needed every one of the votes she set on fire.

        Yeah it looks like the final call had Harris down by 2.5 million or so, 50% to 48.4%. So, any issue that alienated or discouraged people, even if it wasn’t deciding for people, likely played a factor.