• Dkarma@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Hospitals lawyers “we’d rather be maybe sued by the state than definitely sued and shut down”

    Is how this plays out in real life.

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      It wasn’t just getting sued. Your healthcare provider would face a class B felony and likely revocation of their license prior to amendment 3 passing.

      Missouri faces the nation's fourth-largest shortage of healthcare professionals, with 111 of 114 counties designated as health professional shortage areas. The state projects a deficit of 3,102 doctors by 2030, including 687 primary care providers. Hospital staffing remains strained, with a 17.4% vacancy rate for registered nurses, representing 6,982 unfilled positions. The crisis is compounded by Missouri exporting one-third of medical students to out-of-state residency programs.
      

      It’s not good business for a portion of your workforce to end up in prison when you’re already in a shortage area.

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        It would be cool if she won, but I don’t think she will. Super easy to argue that her circumstances had not yet reached the level of “medical emergency”.

        So fucked are we

        • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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          It would also be super easy to argue the hospital is at fault given they were cited by the HHS secretary for refusing to provide care required by federal law.

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          It still matters because the Federal courts can set precedent that the Federal law (obviously, that’s how Federalism works) overrides state abortion bans.

          • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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            And as the article I posted explains, those hospitals broke federal law when they refused to provide the abortion.

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              As your own link said, they didn’t break the law.

              She was stable. The law says the hospital had to wait until she was in danger.

              A lawsuit from a pro lifer who is suing because she wanted an abortion isn’t proof they broke the law.

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                  Unfortunately the HHS Secretary isn’t empowered to create law, nor are they empowered to interpret law. They can only share opinions, provide guidance, create policy, etc. So no, in this case, you are not quite right.

                  Further, as the other user pointed out: the hospital would rather be sued by the individual for violating their rights than by the state for violating the law. Regardless of potential precedent or final outcome, one is far, FAR more costly than the other.

                  As they say, when the punishment is less than the profit, it’s not a punishment, it’s a business expense

                  Ultimately, laws can only be judged on their ability to create outcomes. This one has failed miserably

                  • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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                    My point is that this isn’t some random person stating as much. It’s an actual finding by the federal government, and adding to that the lawsuit makes it crystal clear the hospital is in the wrong.

                    If I tell my doctor friend Bob not to call 911 unless there’s an emergency, my other friend Tom has a seizure that Bob believes may kill him, and Bob doesn’t call 911, is that my fault or Bob’s?

                    The fact that numerous abortions have happened in ban states and nobody has been charged so far is evidence that emergency allowances aren’t some draconian measure.

                • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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                  I’ve already quoted from that exact link.

                  From link you were talking about:

                  “At the time of the discussion, Farmer was medically stable, with some vaginal bleeding that was not heavy. “Therefore contrary to the most appropriate management based (sic) my medical opinion, due to the legal language of MO law, we are unable to offer induction of labor at this time,” the report quotes the specialist as saying.”

                  Again, she was stable at the time. The law required that they not perform an abortion.

                  A political official saying something is not the law. Filling a lawsuit is not the law.