• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    2 days ago

    I don’t care about moralizing. Not being an utter psychopath, I want to avoid wars and people dying. NATO created the conditions for war through it’s actions over many decades since the dissolution of USSR. Now hundreds of thousands of people died, while sickos living in NATO countries continue to cheers this on.

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      1 day ago

      Yeah, nazis growing to power has never lead to any deaths. You serious?

      Even if NATO did that it’s Russian soldiers bombarding cities, and and Russian soldiers in Ukraine. You want to stop wars, everything that needs to be done is them going back to their country. Oh, and maybe, just maybe, the “sickos” simply know what Russian occupation of their countries looked like, some first hand? You ever consider that, or is there simply one side who has any rights?

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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        1 day ago

        Again, the whole reason the war is still going is because NATO stopped negotiations that could’ve ended it two months in. It’s western fascists such as yourself who are ensuring the killing goes on. The blood is on your hands.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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            18 hours ago

            Oh look more moralizing. The difference between me and you is that I’m not trying to have some moral high ground here. I just want the war to stop. You’re the one who keeps trying to make it out like the war is all Russia’s fault. Meanwhile, NATO scum is the reason the war continues. You should put your money where your mouth is, and go sign up for the foreign legion. Go fight some Russians and defend Ukraine since you believe in it so much. But we both know you just want other people to die for your ideals because all you fascists are cowards deep down.

            All Russia has to do to stop a war is getting the fuck out of Ukraine, and the killing stops.

            I love how you trolls keep repeating it as if it’s going to happen if you just say it enough times. What part of the fact that Russia won the war are you still struggling to comprehend?

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              10 hours ago

              I’m not acting for some abstract morals, but against pointless death, imperialist rule and growth of feudal states. Russia as it is personifies most of that.

              Russia can stop the war anytime by going back to it’s internationally recognized borders. And nothing says “russia won” like a film studio donating it’s antique tanks to MOD, and the state having to rely on rapists and murderers to win meters of terrain 1000 days into their 2-3 day operation. You’re beyond delusional. You’re cheering a idiot who just destroyed the demography of his already falling dystopian state for the sake of militarizing the rest of Europe against it.
              And even if he won, one thing you will see is a campaign of terror directed at Russia by the Ukrainian and broader Slav underground by which the Chechen one was only symbolic.

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                Given that Russia is not going to just pack up and go home having won the war, explain why you keep repeating this mantra?

                And the terror campaign will likely be directed at imbeciles in Europe who have been arming and supporting fascists this whole time. Once these fascists realize you’ve betrayed them, they’re not going to be happy about it. Meanwhile, it’s funny that you brought up Chechnya, given that Chechens are now fighting along side the Russians.

                Enjoy having austerity while Europe spends its every last penny militarizing. Best of luck to you with that https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html

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                  6 hours ago

                  If they won why is there fighting still going? And if it’s still going on now and drains Russian resources and bleeds the country (as NATO intends) then why would it stop? It would seem Russia only keeps stepping deeper into NATOs trap, whether it “won” or not? Can you please check what percentage of it’s GDP Europe spends militarizing vs the “winning” Russia? If I recall correctly Russian economic might could be matched by just Germany and Poland, and entire EU would be something like 3-4 times more easily? So if the European states alone want to fight it, they can do it indefinitely from Russian perspective.
                  As for Ukrainians, so happens I’ve been working with refugees, my team has been in touch with a few thousand of them, and majority of the team itself is Ukrainian or Belorussian. To put it mildly - you’re out of touch with reality. You understand very little of the hatred towards Russia that it has developed. And there are new generations growing up already, who’d been thought by Russia that neither election or just accepting Russian rule is not an option if they want to survive, the only option is force. There’s only that many watniks and North Koreans one can spend and still have a population that can recover. And if these are bleeding out against mostly 1980’s NATO equipment and modernized soviet era tanks, this would not work out better against less corrupt and much better armed states willing to train new generations of fighters willing to fight till their land is reclaimed? If you believed what you’re saying you’d understand there’s no chance for Russia to actually win.

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                    If they won why is there fighting still going?

                    Because the fascist regime you’re backing is gang pressing people into fighting. According to Bloomberg, the share of forcibly mobilized soldiers in the Ukrainian army is 75% https://archive.ph/4FVr4

                    It would seem Russia only keeps stepping deeper into NATOs trap, whether it “won” or not?

                    Oh wow that’s a fascinating theory. Let’s see what somebody with an actual clue from the The Royal United Services Institute in UK has to say about that https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

                    Can you please check what percentage of it’s GDP Europe spends militarizing vs the “winning” Russia?

                    Can you please check the economic crash in Germany that’s unfolding due to lack of cheap energy from Russia? Guess what ramping up military industry needs, that’s right lots of energy for shit like steel production.

                    If I recall correctly Russian economic might could be matched by just Germany and Poland, and entire EU would be something like 3-4 times more easily?

                    Meanwhile in the real world https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/10/politics/russia-artillery-shell-production-us-europe-ukraine/index.html

                    So if the European states alone want to fight it, they can do it indefinitely from Russian perspective.

                    Sure little buddy, you keep on believing that.

                    As for Ukrainians, so happens I’ve been working with refugees, my team has been in touch with a few thousand of them, and majority of the team itself is Ukrainian or Belorussian.

                    Oh you’ve been working with all the brave Ukrainian patriots who fled the fighting.

                    And there are new generations growing up already, who’d been thought by Russia that neither election or just accepting Russian rule is not an option if they want to survive, the only option is force.

                    Nah, they’re just gonna stay in Europe.

                    There’s only that many watniks and North Koreans one can spend and still have a population that can recover.

                    How to tell people that math isn’t your strong suit.

                    If you believed what you’re saying you’d understand there’s no chance for Russia to actually win.

                    People like you are a testament to the power of propaganda. The sad truth is that you believe everything you say, and you’ve completely left material reality we exist in. You live in a fantasy world, but thing about material reality is that it can only be ignored for so long.

                    And I’m going to stop here, enjoy living in your fantasies while you can cause life’s gonna get real hard for people like you real soon.