• Moss [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    14 days ago

    iPhones are such a dogshit product and I genuinely have no fucking clue why there are so many ardent defenders of Apple. Like Apple is so blatant about being a shitty greedy company who make worse products than everyone else and charge more, but somehow people still lick their boots and act like elitists for spending 1000 dollars on something that my 150 buck Chinese phone can do better.

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        13 days ago

        iMessage and FaceTime lock-in.

        Probably not so much of a problem anymore, but Android phones used to have a lot of crapware from the phone manufacturer and/or carrier and you couldn’t expect more than a single OS update. Android phones are a good deal at $100 but I wouldn’t want to pay $700 for such messy UI. Google’s Nexus and Pixel as well as Motorola and OnePlus catered to the enthusiasts that knew what they want but these have never been big sellers in the West.

    • it’s like buying a benz luxury sedan. it’s an overpriced fashion accessory where function and value proposition are subservient to brand and form. it says, “i don’t know what i’m doing, but i’m paid so i am doing it correctly.” the idea that, when the warranty expires, it will be wildly expensive if not artificially impossible to service for basic issues does not enter into the equation. KBB estimates the cost for an oil change on a Mercedes-Benz GLE 350 to be over $200 and to change the oil and do basic checks of fluid levels and replace air filters they charge $450. unique/specialized tools and equipiment, absurd design requiring lots of labor time, ultra expensive material costs. it’s a design philosophy of perceived prestige and price signaling.

      apparently on AppleTV+ the native advertising rules for scripts require baddies to not be shown using apple products. they have to use android stuff, PCs and flip-phones. that’s how you know the sham is as fragile as it’s ludicrous defenders.

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      13 days ago

      I’m genuinely curious what $150 phone beats a $1,000 iPhone

      Comparing the iPhone to its more available competition in the US (where iPhones dominate) it’s not that much, if at all, more expensive than a similar spec Pixel or Galaxy phone. And the reputations of neither Google nor Samsung are any better than Apple.

      I use an iPhone now because I got sick of the volatility of Android. Android is constantly being “refreshed” with gimmicks and cosmetic overhauls. New apps are created and sundowned after 2 years. Lots of bugs/quirks that you just learn to work around, like WiFi randomly dropping so you have to reboot once a day. Feels reminiscent of Windows in that way.

      Just like with non-Apple phones, you can buy a used iPhone for much cheaper. Yes the current year flagship models will be very expensive, over $1,000. That will also be true for any flagship Android phone or even a Huawei (e.g. the Pura 70 Pro is $1,300)

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        13 days ago

        I’m genuinely curious what $150 phone beats a $1,000 iPhone

        Answer : not sure what you mean by beat, but if it involves having similar or even better specs then I found 2. Both cost less than $150 where I am. Take a look. I have compared them to iPhone 16 plus which goes for a bit over $1000.

        Bonus: you get headphone jack and expandable memory with both.

        Lots of bugs/quirks that you just learn to work around, like WiFi randomly dropping so you have to reboot once a day.

        Been using the same dirt cheap android for 6 years and never had this issue. Maybe it’s just your model? Sure there are bugs in android, but then you can look at all the battery drain issues in literally every iOS upgrade. link

        Point is: no phone is bug free

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          13 days ago

          I don’t think that is enough information to make a meaningful comparison. For example, megapixels is a poor basis for comparing two camera systems, especially today when the photography arms race is located primarily in the post-processing. Battery size means little when separated from the software it is driving. Two displays of equal resolution can have different quality in terms of colors, contrast, peak and min brightness, etc. Not to mention some intangibles like 5+ years of software support from Apple that I doubt will be provided for a budget Android phone.