• halyk.the.red@lemmy.ml
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    25 days ago

    I didn’t create the situation, I’m just reacting to it. Feel free to tell your kids and grandkids that, when given the choice, you actively supported a genocide.

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      25 days ago

      You’re actively supporting genocide.

      It’s very obvious to absolutely everyone that allowing Trump to win will produce the worst possible outcome for palestinians.

      I honestly feel sorry for you. I think there’s a strong possibility your own kids and grandkids will be asking you about this time in history, and I suspect you’re going to realise in future how silly this “do x or I won’t vote for you” position is.

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          Would you like me to make a pdf with some words and some awful photos of what palestine would look like with a Trump supported Netanyahu?

          You realise that Netanyahu wants you to abstain from voting right?

          Russia, China, Israel, all understand that they can’t get you to vote for Trump, so they’ve been pouring many millions of dollars into manipulating your good self into not voting.

          In the article from this post Sanders explains in great detail why Harris is the most likely to negotiate a cease fire. Is that what you would like?

          If you refuse to vote for Harris you’re actively supporting genocide.

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        24 days ago

        By virtue of birthplace, we are all supporting it. The only control I have in this situation is to not actively support the people who are saying they will give support to a genocidal regime. Also saying “Don’t commit genocide or I won’t vote for you” really should not be the controversial take that it’s become.

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          24 days ago

          The only control I have in this situation is stand by and implicitly support/not oppose the people who are saying they will genocide even harder abroad and bring the genocide home so I can keep my moral high ground.

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        24 days ago

        I am already complicit by virtue of birthplace, that doesn’t mean I have to take an active role in supporting the lesser evil.

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          24 days ago

          Then you’ve chosen to support the greater evil.

          You can hate the two party system all you want, but it’s the reality we live in.

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            24 days ago

            It is the reality we live in, and I’m not happy about it as much as the next guy. I refuse to give my support to any candidate who is saying they’ll support a genocidal regime. The rest is out of my control.

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              24 days ago

              Wrong. You are given some amount of control with your vote. You could choose to do something and are instead choosing to do nothing. You are choosing to abrogate your control.

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                24 days ago

                As voting is not required, I have not abrogated. I am doing something, I am using discretion to withhold support of genocidal candidates.