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    • stink@lemmygrad.ml
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      “You’re very right that the current administration is letting Netanyahu do whatever he wants”…

      “Trump would be worse about it”

      How motherfucker how?

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      I mean they’re not wrong; voters have a choice between Shredder, Krang and some random person off the street they barely know. Would you trust some random stranger over Shredder with the future of your country?

      Yeah I didn’t think so.

      (Also it’s not just Netanyahu doing whatever he wants; the Israeli government with the approval (and sometimes help) of its people is monstrous)

      When you have to choose between 100% Hitler, 99% Hitler, and Bob, then a vote for Bob is just a wasted vote.

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      Liberals literally can’t stand for anything.

      You decided that continuing to do a genocide was more important than our votes.

      Fucking own it.

      Because it doesn’t matter how many times you rephrase it “the people currently doing a genocide are less likely to do a genocide than the people not currently doing a genocide” is not going to convince anybody.

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        yeah more or less. i think i experienced every negative emotion all at once reading those freaks’ comments about how being morally opposed to genocide is a fringe, minority, or “moral high horse” position or whatever the fuck. xi-plz

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    Do these fools genuinely think that the genociderina will bring them improved human rights?

    Because the constant stream of bipartisan bills to expand the surveillance/police state suggest otherwise. And so does the Democrats intentional cozying up the gop and complete lack of meaningful opposition to the gop’s actions in the red states.

    And the green voter is completely correct. The dems are neo-fascists. Like all fascist voters, they vote for fascist parties for their own personal benefit, and downplay what the fascists are doing to the others. How many nazi voters in 1932 Germany thought that Hitler would send them to meatgrinders on the eastern front just 10 years later?

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    I think everyone should really pause for just a moment to reflect on this cultural moment and why I would submit it is the final nail in the coffin on why libs are not allies. What I find most incredible about their protestations that Kamala and the Dems represent “the best chance” that the Palestinians have and that Trump will somehow be worse on the issue is that all of that is essentially liberals and democratic party line voters basically internalizing and regurgitating REPUBLICAN talking points and propaganda that the democrats themselves keep denying at every single opportunity.

    If Trump wins: the entire democratic party and your liberal friends will suddenly be crying out about how monstrous Trump is and how he’s made Gaza 10 times worse. If Kamala wins they can go back to just not giving a shit. Either way they will be smug self righteous assholes about it.

    I’m actually talking myself a bit into believing the idea that the democrats actually want to lose. Losing would essentially absolve them of the responsibility of actually doing anything and let them just sit in a corner and complain about everything.

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    I often find myself thinking of the phrase “too clever by half” when listening to the meandering logic of democrats and their voters. One person has a clear moral conviction that may not easily connect to an actionable reality but at least has moral clarity. The other person has a confusing and circuitous chain of tenuous logic that all essentially amounts to incrementalism.

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      yes, but it’s incrementalism backwards, as the democrats keep edging right.

      and democrat voters never have any actual real world plans either, their idea is that they’ll have to win every election 100% from now on until forever, and maybe eventually that’ll magically result in all the good things. meanwhile the best they can actuall get is a holding pattern. but they never examine that, because then they’d have to stop voting democrat.

      fucking accelerationists have a more coherent plan for the future.

      • WorkingClassCorpse [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        This is the most charitable way of seeing it for them, honestly.

        I think many of them don’t actually have any interest in even incremental ‘progress’, at least not any more than it is incidental to their goal of gaining and retaining electoral power.

        They abandon their ‘progress’ as soon as it becomes an electoral liability, and scold and police voters in their ‘tent’ for bringing up those issues when it isn’t to the party’s advantage. Anyone with moral or ethical principles (and are vocal about them) in the democratic voter base is liable to be pushed out as soon as it’s no longer convenient to support their interests.

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    Ah, a fantasy shower thought argument in which the chad politically conscious and empathetic kamala voter DESTROYS the soyboy green voter.

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    Can’t hear it on mobile, when I click Enable HLS it won’t load at all anymore. But I saw who this is and realized I don’t need to hear what they have to say. Insufferable person.

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      Ugh, I can hear his smug voice and tone in my head without even actually hearing it.

      Let me guess, he is doing his “I’m the smartest person on this app” vs “I’m a dumb idealist” bit that he does so poorly?