feel like I’m encounterimg tip requests with increasing frequency, but not jazzed about the prospect of adding a 20% charge at every point of sale.
Most important? Any full service restaurant, it’s literally their only wages- their paycheck is mostly just a record of their 2.13/hour being used entirely to pay taxes.
Similarly, anyone delivering food to your home- they’re getting paid slightly better than a server probably, but are putting wear and tear on a personal vehicle and effectively net very little before tips.
their paycheck is mostly just a record of their 2.13/hour being used entirely to pay taxes.
this varies by state. slightly less worker-hostile states only have a minimum wage carveout for the disabled but not for servers
slightly less worker-hostile states only have a minimum wage carveout for the disabled but not for servers
So fucking heinous and evil. The only way this is “less worker-hostile” is because the vast majority of the states also allow disabled people to be wage-enslaved for less than the legal minimum in addition to servers; and even then, in a saner version of this exploitative anti-worker world that would be entirely backwards and the working class of society would have already struggled to decide not to allow abuse of disabled people for cheap labor first before moving onto others. Everyone responsible for drafting these laws with those carveouts and using disabled people as cheap nearly-unpaid labor like that deserve to be summarily shot by the Peoples’ army, frankly.
sadly it was the liberal part of the asylum emancipation project that participated in that shit in the midcentury afaik
I have hopefully not doxxed myself too badly here.
nah you live in the majority of the us lol
while risking getting in a fatal accident every trip, not just dropping a tray of food if they get bumped wrong.
Basically anyone who I know is getting paid less than minimum wage (because state laws are godless and terrible) is getting a tip
People can’t live off $7.50, they definitely can’t live off $2.30 and good will
People can’t live off $7.50, they definitely can’t live off $2.30 and good will
They especially can’t live off of “tips” to “smile more” or passive-aggressive fundie propaganda notes about finding Jesus. Ask how I know.
Here’s my rules of thumb:
Table service 20%
Bar: $1 per drink minimum. If I’m ordering cocktails, usually 2 bucks
Delivery: usually 20%, but with a 3 dollar minimum
Coffee: tips for drinks that are made (latte). For a carafe pull, if I have change I’ll toss it in the jar, but no tip off card etc.
I should note that
has a great episode on this. Remember that even though we should hate tipping because it allows the boss to surveil employees and leverage tips against them, refusing to tip is not praxis. We should strive for change where employees are paid more and no longer need tips, but not tipping will not achieve that.why do you tip the same 20% for someone carrying a tray of food 50 feet as someone who gets into a vehicle they own and maintain and drives 100s of feet while risking their life and spending their own money on fuel and repair?
The waiter is doing emotional labor/care work in addition to the transport of food. It’s a different kind of work but still work
We should value both. Indeed, that’s why there’s always. 3 dollar minimum, even if I’m only getting ten bucks delivered - to recognize the gas, etc used.
Also, remember, in some states those waiters/waitresses make submininun wage and thus need the tip to make up the difference and pay their rent.
Basically, I value both the care and emotional work of the waiter/waitress and the car costs of the driver. As we should as marxists.
I don’t disagree, I must have missed the $3 floor. I guess I never factored in the cost of therapy or fancy clothes and only considered how expensive it is to keep a vehicle in working order. What grinds my gears is the people who would casually hand a delivery driver a $5 bill for a large order of pizzas are the same people who painstaking calculate the exact percentage to tip for a large family dinner at a mediocre restaurant. Don’t ask me how I know or why I care so much.
No, totally valid. I used to drive pizzas, so I always make sure to at least fork out $3 because of gas, etc. The nice thing about the job was it was very minimal on the kind of “playing nice” shit - I’d show up, give the person the pizza, get the money. Once I started working as a driver, I realized how much goes into the other tipping professions that I wasn’t responsible for (i.e. small talk), so I made sure to take care of them as well. Even though pulling a beer off the draft isn’t nearly as difficult as driving to someone’s house, the bartender also has to keep an eye on me, make sure to offer a new draft, etc. I think that
at the end of Bullshit Jobs really hits things home with the emotional labor/care work stuff. That’s the real value of the waiter - a robot could easily move food 50 feet, but it couldn’t tell the customer what’s good or not, etc.Sure. Emotional labor also includes hoping your car makes it up that hill in a blizzard (praying like a bastard), and then making it back down again without banging against a curb, at best. All the while knowing before you left on that run the most you can make is $2.
If someone delivers something to you using their own vehicle, they are literally risking their life as well as what is likely their most valuable asset. If you can’t afford to buy them at least a gallon of fuel you should of done it yourself. And use cash whenever possible.
In lots of countries if, for example, a phone is needed to do the job, then the employer has to provide the phone and the phone plan. If it is a hard requirement that one be clean shaven, then razors must be supplied. This also applies to fuel. It is not my problem as the customer
op asked about
so it’s not your problem regardlessIt is not my problem as the customer
like a crab in a bucket. jesus christ.
“lots of countries” does not include the USA
yeah, i know. aren’t they just the absolute greatest?
As long as I know the tip goes to the worker, always.
a mohel has to do a really bad job to not get a tip
edit, serious answer: restaurants, food delivery, taxi/uber. and anywhere with a tip jar gets any coins I have
Just a reminder that anyone working Carhops at Sonic gets paid tipping minimum wage. Many people don’t know that and don’t tip them.
If you go there make sure you tip some.
Don’t you also have to add tax as well, mentally
guessing this person lives somewhere with no consumption tax, only value-added, income and/or property taxes
Here, taxes are just added to the shelf price of everything, most shops have a couple of label printers. I think it’s required by law
Table service, delivery, making a drink
Table service I tip 20%
Delivery I typically tip 10%
Making a drink (whether at a bar or cafe) I usually tip 1$ per drink or 20% whichever is more
TABLE SERVICE 20% and DELIVERY 10%?!?!?
why do you tip 20% for someone carrying a tray of food 50 feet and 10% for someone who gets into a vehicle they own and maintain and drives 100s of feet while risking their life and spending their own money on fuel and repair?
please explain your thought process.
My tipping procedures are very typical of the US, if you’re blessed to not be from this accursed country they might seem strange, but I think the numbers I give are fairly normal. That said, I don’t order food much, so it’s possible I’m off base.
As for my reasoning:
(1) Working as a server is a lot more than just carrying a tray one time.
(2) I live in a fairly urban area, anywhere I order from is at most a ten minutes drive.
(3) Food delivery tends be more expensive at base cost, so the percent is off an already higher value.
(4) If there’s bad weather or awful traffic (hence increasing driving time), I do double or triple the tip.
Thank you for your response.
(1) Working as a server doesn’t require you to pay for special insurance, working as a server doesn’t require replacing tires, and brake pads, and windshield wiper blades, and regular oil changes, and not killing random people by accident.
(2) A ten minute drive can result in serious injury or death. Walking through a restaurant carries significantly lower risks.
(3) More expensive? So what? 10% of $50 delivery price instead of 20% of $30 dine-in is what? $5 tip compared to $6 tip, does that seem right?
(4) Traffic is always awful.
Always tip your driving waiter more than your foot-traffic waiter.
Working as a server doesn’t require you to pay for special insurance, working as a server doesn’t require replacing tires, and brake pads, and windshield wiper blades, and regular oil changes, and not killing random people by accident.
For most servers (and most jobs) all of these things are required, just less, since the only way to get to work for most people is to drive
Food.
If you touch my food, I want you to be as happy as possible.
If you have to drive to me, I need to give you more money. If you had to walk outside to deliver my food, I need to give you more money. If you work at a slop house, I need to give you more money. Its a pretty solid reason why I can’t eat out as much as would be convenient but its something that I try to live by.
I very much avoid anything but passing cash directly to the staff though. I don’t want them to have to pay more in taxes if they don’t want to or give reasons for management to keep wages low and most importantly I don’t want management to be able to take a cut of the tips for themselves.
Anything else that I normally do where there’s a tip jar, I politely ignore. Mostly because I don’t have enough money to be able to be so free with tips in Hell-country but also because it doesn’t seem fitting.
Restaurant service, room service, bartenders, delivery.
Seconding @[email protected], tipping is great because it’s your opportunity to compensate the laborer providing you a good or service instead of their bloodsucking petty bourgeois boss. Kill the comprador part of you that hates tipping, and tip discretely with cash wherever possible.
Tipping is Praxis
Something I don’t understand about Canada (or at least Ontario) is we have the exact same tipping rules, but no minimum wage carve-out. Tipped minimum wage is minimum wage.
When playing Marth
Where a good tipper is important includes an edge guard option on Yoshis cause you can easily cheese an early kill at like 20%
Something I don’t understand about Canada (or at least Ontario) is we have the exact same tipping rules, but no minimum wage carve-out. Tipped minimum wage is minimum wage.
