Libs literally bending over backwards because they decided they liked him before they learned about his past. Voted 3rd party last time, almost was gonna vote for a lib this time but I’ve been called an antisemite so many times I just can’t bring myself to voting for a guy that not only supports genocide but calls me a racist for opposing it!

Like you can’t call me a racist and expect me to vote for your candidate. Makes no sense, but that’s what the convo is gonna be the next three months lmao.

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    Honestly, they almost all support the genocide and they all want war with Lebanon and Iran. The only Democrats opposing it are getting primaried hard.

    The USA must have greenlighted the attack on Haniyeh, and very likely also helped carry it out.

    So yeah, I get you. If I were American, I would probably still vote for Kamala, but it’s all very Orwellian.

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        the bomb story is bullshit, one of the authors of the NYT article is iirc an IOF officer or similar. Iran says it was a short range projectile

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          Yeah I’ve seen that reported by Scahill’s new outfit Dropsite News (which btw seems good so far, I’m a free subscriber and I’ve already gotten like 4 very good articles from Scahill on middle east politics in the last ~2 weeks).

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      But I was told that because there are 5x as many Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza as There were in 1967! So clearly I don’t even know what genocide is and neither do you 😂

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        kettling an entire country’s population from land being stolen into only two areas is going to lead to an increase in the number of people in those areas, yeah

        but the racist implication in such a “5x more than 60 years ago” is the Churchill “they breed like rabbits, so they actual need some genocide”

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          Also, there are more Bosnians today than before the genocide against them. Genocide is not a numbers thing.

          And second, most people will say that Israel is guilty of apartheid and ethnic cleansing between 1948 and 2023.

          The genocide only started in 2023 after the attacks and is limited to Gaza.

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          I don’t know much about this, but I’ve heard something anecdotal via radio war nerd that is related. The war nerd used to live in East Timor, not long after the genocide there, and he happened to witness a huge transition in the birth rate. Apparently the native population had a high birth rate during and immediately following the genocidal period which rapidly fell off not long afterwards. It’s an interesting phenomenon that I haven’t heard an anthropological explanation/discussion of, but perhaps there is a kind of communal response to this acute collective trauma that is inflicted on some populations.

          Perhaps it is better to discuss the Palestinian population by age demographic rather than just the number of Palestinians. My understanding was that prior to 10/7 approximately half of the Gaza strip’s population was 18 or younger. No doubt some of that is explained by a reduced life expectancy for Gazans but there also must be a decent number of children being born.