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    5 months ago

    What if on top of that, I add that wherever the story of Adam and Eve comes from God tells humans “not to be religious”. The cause fall of man is knowledge of Good and Evil. Knowledge of Good and evil is religion.

    It is not right from wrong. Adam and Eve had knowledge of right and wrong. As it was wrong to “eat from the tree” therefore right to not do so.

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      Knowledge of good and evil is religion.

      I’m not sure I see how this is true. You’d have to say more about it. But whatever the case, what’s up with god not wanting us to know about good and evil? I cannot fathom in any way how that is a good plan at all, let alone something that should constitute an overall “fall” for our species.

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        This raises hand and shows everything in life

        Because religion has caused most all the worlds atrocities or has been used as a weapon against the common man since the start.

        Knowledge of Good and Evil is something humans cannot grasp easily and is easily manipulated by man.

        All it takes is for one man to call one group evil and many hop on the “Good” Side.

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          You can’t use “gestures vaguely at everything” as a way to make a point. I too can see vaguely everything and if I tell you your point isn’t making sense to me, a response like that doesn’t move us forward.

          Your premise is that the Bible tells us not to be religious because it depicts knowledge of good and evil as a bad thing and religion = knowledge of good and evil.

          You are doing nothing to develop this argument. You gestured vaguely at everything. You said religion causes problems in the world. You said humans are easily manipulated. None of those develop your point that knowledge of good and evil = religion.

          It seems to me that if people have difficulty grasping good and evil, and this difficulty makes them manipulable, that actual knowledge of good and evil would be a good thing. People who truly have this are less manipulable. Most idiot people simply don’t have this knowledge.

          Anyway. I was interested in your point but you don’t seem to have knowledge of good and bad rhetorical technique.

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            I can and did use it because that gesture is to point at everything in life.

            Religion has been the cause of Death since the first death.

            If you can’t see that Knowledge of Good and Evil= Religion well I guess you are just like the rest of the world.

            Not sure how to explain any further that Knowledge of good and Evil, unless I add the word forces for you, is religion.

            It is knowledge of God(s)/(esses) and their Enemies.

            To say those with this knowledge are less manipulated is kinda weird to me as Religious and Non Religious leaders have manipulated Billions to kill billions using Religion throughout history.

            I am not saying there are not forces Greater than man in the universe. I am saying our beliefs of Good Forves and Evil forces is and always has been used to either Manipulate man or limit the average man’s freedom in life.

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              if you can’t see that Knowledge of Good and Evil= Religion well I guess you are just like the rest of the world

              It must be so frustrating to be holding vital knowledge that no one else in the world can see, and which you can’t figure out how to explain to anyone. Thinking you hold secrets of the universe and are the only one who can understand them also makes me concerned for your well being because that sounds a lot like an active mental health issue.

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                4 months ago

                My mental health is the one thing that keeps me going honestly, as truth is a “light burden, I just run with”.

                My physical health is another story.

                2x Leukemia survivor of 2 different leukemias

                Ankylosing Spondylitis

                Parkinsonism (meeting a movement specialist)

                It sure is frustrating but I tell you that what I say in our conversation is the one thing that keeps me going.

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                  4 months ago

                  I wish you all the best with your health challenges. May your wounds heal and your bills be light.