The incident in northern California marked the latest mishap blamed on the electric vehicle company’s Autopilot tech

  • IllNess@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    5 months ago

    Roads really need a standard for sensors specifically for autopilots.

    GPS and cameras reading lines, signs ,and lights aren’t good.

    • wieson@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      35
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      Yeah, like a digital “ideal line” that the cars can follow.

      Maybe even a physical guiding line.

      We could even connect all the cars via WLAN (WiFi) to exchange info when they are braking and accelerating. That would increase efficiency.

      Maybe we could even connect them physically to have a stronger engine pulling more cars more efficiently.

      If we already have an ideal guiding line, we might actually save some asphalt and make the roads more optimised. Use different materials so the tyre particles don’t pollute as much.

      Ah, let’s just build a train.

        • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          4 months ago

          Or just buld a tram that rides on rails. More effecient and no need to over engineer an autopilot system

          • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            You have to lay tracks for a tram though, means changing the route isn’t that easy. Self-Driving buses would actually be more efficient since you could alter the route on a hourly basis if you wanted optimized by traffic and destinations required.

            All that could be easily automated, but you lose that if you have a physical track you have to run along.

    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      I don’t want to waste any more tax money trying to make one of the least effecient modes of transport more autonomous. Just build an electricrfied tram if thats what you want.

      • blarth
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        4 months ago

        The United States is simply too large and distributed for everyone to use public transportation. It will never happen, so get used to it and try to optimize what will be part of our future.

        • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          The majority of trips people make are within their own city/local region. Thats where transit should be implemented first. Your country is not “too big” for transit

          If your country is too big for transit, it is certainly too big for all sorts of sensors and such in the roads to assist autonmous driving.

          • blarth
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            4 months ago

            It is too distributed in too many places for mass transit. The religious fervor over the fuck cars movement is not going to get people in highly populated, low density areas to walk a mile to catch a bus to catch a train full of homeless people to catch another bus to walk a half mile to their destination, when they could have completed that same journey in the comfort of their own car in 1/4 of the time.

            Take Dallas for instance. I’m not going to do the work for you, but feel free to plan a trip from a random house in Allen, TX to a business 5-10+ miles away using both the public transit system and then a car. No one sane with limited time in their day is opting for the public transit option. And this is in a city with a decent passenger rail system.

            • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              All of those issues could be fixed by building around transit being the prioirty instead of the car. Some cities actually have transit that is faster than a car because transit gets priority at intersections and can take a more direct route.

              • blarth
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                4 months ago

                I’m open to ideas. Show me an example of it.

                • FireRetardant@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  The new york city subway is often faster than driving. Many cities in the Netherlands have faster transit or cycling times than driving due to careful planning and priority. Japan has high speed rail connecting many of its cities, most trains going faste than highway speeds, some doubling or even tripling highway speeds.

                  Also north america was founded on trains. If we could build trains 100 years ago we can build better ones now.

                  • blarth
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    4 months ago

                    All of those are very densely populated places.