• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    74
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    (paraphrasing) the far left will say to firebomb a Walmart but not actually do it

    We burnt down a motherfucking police station cool-zone

    A major climate bill

    If it does nothing to change the trajectory of climate change than how is it major?

    (Paraphasing) What have the anti-electoralist left done in comparison to the democrats?

    Why the fuck are you comparing the least powerful people in the country to some of the most powerful? Are you even a leftist, Contra?

    Not to mention the absolute stupidity of saying the anti-electoralist left is ineffective, when I’m pretty sure both Marx and Lenin both pointed out the pointlessness of bourgeoisie elections (maybe theory nerds can correct me if I’m wrong?)

    I haven’t watched Contrapoints for a loooong time, but she was always my least favourite Breadtuber. She had this sort of “Trans people should try to pass if we want to be accepted” video if I recall correctly and that’s when I noped the fuck away from her videos.

    Skull boy is okay, the rest of breadtube can suck my enby ass. Half of them give me fed vibes anyway.

    • Red_sun_in_the_sky [any]@hexbear.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      50
      ·
      5 months ago

      I haven’t watched Contrapoints for a loooong time, but she was always my least favourite Breadtuber. She had this sort of “Trans people should try to pass if we want to be accepted” video if I recall correctly and that’s when I noped the fuck away from her videos.

      Oh yeah she has done that and more. She has the most libbed up trajectory. She did the voting video if I remember, where she opines how revolution is bad and leads to “China tiananmen square 1989 mao great leap forward 1000 billion dead”. And blames tankies for trump winning prior.

      Anyway she also did hillary girlboss docu and gleefully bantered with hilldawg and Chelsea. Awesome.

      Apparently gaza is mega complicated for her to decide which side is bad .

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        33
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        Ok now I get why people say she’s dismissive of nonbinary people. Trans people are supposed to pass? Like I’m nonbinary and agender. What am I supposed to pass as? A rock?

        • ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          23
          ·
          edit-2
          5 months ago

          You’re supposed to pass through fascist and terf guts

          And you all already pass as a bunch of very cute and wholesome comrades

        • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          5 months ago

          white liberal trans always become fuckin bigoted against nonbinaries, fucking just as bad as the fucking transphobes at that point

          and you are a cute and amazing person axont, you pass by existing, like any other trans person

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            ·
            edit-2
            5 months ago

            i’m really glad everyone is so sweet and considerate. I often don’t even feel trans enough or that I’m not doing anything, since most people don’t even know I’m nonbinary unless I tell them. I’m not on HRT or anything and don’t have discrimination from my immediate family (extended family is a different story). All I’ve really faced is that coworkers and random people don’t understand or believe me, they say I’m just making stuff up. But I know who I am and so do my comrades, so I’m really grateful for that. At most I sometimes feel like I’m “supposed” to present androgynous, but why? I’d rather just be comfortable and present how I feel like. I mostly dress as a mid-90s lesbian, like with skinny jeans and boots lol.

            My biggest enby victory so far is a time when I went to jury duty. I’m registered in the county with my gender as “Other” and so the judge had literally no idea how to address me. Kept going back and forth between “Mister” and “Miss” and that kind of ruled.

            flag-non-binary-pride bridget-pride

    • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      47
      ·
      5 months ago

      About the marx and lenin thing, both of them saw working class participation in bourgeois poltiics as necessary for the working class to count its own strength and put forth its political program. They saw it essentially as preparatory work for any revolution.

      Neither had any illusions that participation in bourgeois politics by voting for bourgeois parties or bourgeois candidates would have any benefits. I don’t know which one said it, but they even explicitly point out that it is better for the number of reactionary representatives in parliament to increase than for the working class candidates to deradicalise their program, or sell out to the bourgeoise.

      That is because, again, the point is to disseminate revolutionary views within the population, to create a known alternative that could become a rallying cry if a revolutionary situation presented itself.

        • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          23
          ·
          5 months ago

          Now that I think about it, medicare for all is funnily enough, a good example of this strategy. For a long time, the idea was completely mocked, but now that we went through that period of Ideological struggle around 2016 and 2020, it has become far more mainstream.

      • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        I don’t know which one said it, but they even explicitly point out that it is better for the number of reactionary representatives in parliament to increase than for the working class candidates to deradicalise their program, or sell out to the bourgeoise.

        Marx:

        “Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.”